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the smoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying disc has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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from outside this world

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year 1985

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you're listening to fade to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening night

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pay to black bespoke radio

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masses yeah

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how you doing how you doing

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today's tuesday may 25th 2021 146 days

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into the new year

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only 219 days left

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somewhere in the middle of nowhere

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but it is beautiful how you doing how

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you doing

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nice i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tither to and fro back and

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south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjccr the game

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changer network and kgra the planets

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promise jimmy church what is cracking

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everybody how you doing

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what a great week on the show last night

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man some say

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show of the year but you know what

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that's why i swear i i and

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all that is holy after every show

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i will get an email at least one that

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show of the year man that that would

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that that was the show of the year

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wow last night that was pretty good

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but i don't know because tonight

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live from roswell new mexico we have don

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schmidt and i can look back

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over the years and say

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that after every show with don schmidt i

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sat back and said that's the best show i

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ever did

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it happens every time it's about to

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happen again tonight

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and uh we've got a lot to discuss with

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don uh when he comes on

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um the thing that uh uh that i

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appreciate most about don

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is and until you meet him you may not

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understand how cool don schmidt

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is man man man that is

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a cool dude um he has

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done it all um his commitment to

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ufology and this community second to

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wonderful he's just a cool guy just a

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and uh tonight on the show i'll show you

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blueberry cheesecake room service i'm

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all right tonight don schmidt

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last night danny sheehan tonight don

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like it happens every single night here

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all right um a couple of things i had a

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day today um uh i got a

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uh most of it was because it was just

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i got distracted i ended up getting a

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done and um a lot of things centered

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and uh and and figuring out things and

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is it 11 days 11 days

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10 days i will be in laughlin nevada for

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ufo megacon

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i am i'm just gonna let all of you know

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uh the conference is june 6th through

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you know a little bit after dinner time

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i'm just saying i'll see all of you

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there let's hang out

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it'll be a great night oh man saturday

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laughlin a hotel a casino

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dinner drinks everything at our disposal

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are just incredible so uh go and get

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your tickets and info

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everything is over at

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jimmychurchradio.com laughlin ufo

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megacon that's all you gotta do dot com

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all right go and get your tickets and

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info i spoke to the hotel today

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we're like man we're we're almost sold

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rooms i have they have another

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it's like yeah i i think by now

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this evening is sold out and if you want

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to get your rooms you better go and you

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better go now it's so cool all right

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so that's it follow me on twitter at j

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hashtag f2b

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on twitter coming to hang out with us

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the show i do that

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i'm on twitter all day and then i can't

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wait to get over to youtube

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and and hang out and i want to know

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i i want to know who phil the stalker is

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i want to know who that guy is i want to

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know phil

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the stalker phil if you're going to ufo

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mega kind you need to come up to me and

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go dude i'm

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i'm phil the stalker i got this image

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of phil the stalker right

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who who is phil the stalker

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yeah it's gonna be great and uh anyway

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i'm over here on youtube i got to uh

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i gotta i gotta get out of youtube i

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just get sucked in man

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yeah see yeah yeah yeah i am mingling

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i can jump in i do have the ability to

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so i can goof off but yeah i wanna i

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phil the stalker phil

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phil the stalker oh man

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all right where are my hat email is

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uh let's get through this breaking news

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crazy crazy breaking news day

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uh and some of it i have to get to later

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today it was announced that europe's top

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yesterday that british mass surveillance

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breached human rights law

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now in a partial victory for civil

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rights groups that had challenged the

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practices exposed

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by former national security agency

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contractor and whistleblower

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edward snowden the court's 17 judges

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unanimously agreed that there wasn't

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used by british intelligence services to

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sift through

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data and communications intercepted in

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resulting in violations of the right to

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shake of error that's what i'm talking

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that's what that's what i'm talking

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i couldn't believe this story today when

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i wrote a bunch i read i wrote i read a

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pictures it's an incredible story

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there's a walrus right now

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that's hanging out in the uk where's

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wally the iceberg hopping walrus

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old home the arctic walrus probably

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20th swimming alongside the boat of a

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on a sea and it's so funny this

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this one guy says i thought it was a

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and then his head popped out of the

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water and he had tusk

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absolutely insane well here we go

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tomorrow are you ready the full moon

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tomorrow may 26th will be the first

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it will take the moon just under three

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hours to cross through the earth's

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shadow but the actual lunar eclipse

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will last for about 15 minutes in the

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united states the total eclipse will

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at a 7 11 am eastern standard time in

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and end at 7 26 a.m eastern standard

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time now for me

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that's uh what that's that's 4

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11 a.m do i set my alarm clock

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to go outside and see a total lunar

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eclipse it's pretty cool

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uh there you go all right no

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i'm gonna miss it you guys take pictures

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send them to me all right blue origin it

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back in the news

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because they revealed someone is willing

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to fork over over 2.8

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million dollars as the highest bid so

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far in its auction

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for the last seat on the company's first

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flight with

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humans on board bidding began

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earlier this year for a seat on the new

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shepard spacecraft

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the company founded by billionaire

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amazon founder jeff bezos

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unsealed the bids revealing the highest

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bidder and is currently offering 2.8

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million

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for the 10 minute flight now i did the

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that's about 280 000 per minute or

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eight thousand dollars per second

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the company said it received more than 5

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200 bids from

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136 countries in the first round

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the second round kicked off with an

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initial bid of 1.4 million dollars

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and the process will last until june

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10th

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and conclude with a live online

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auction on june 12th the company is

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targeting this july

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20th for its first sub or

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orbitable sightseeing trip of its

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spacecraft

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and this is truly a landmark moment

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for all mankind let's get the show

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cracking happy birthday to today mike

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myers

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and i think bohemian rhapsody okay i can

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i can go with that

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yeah yeah okay i the pacer the amc

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i can go with that but not for me mike

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myers

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in glorious bastards that's right

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that's a great scene cillian murphy

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today is 45

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inception he's got those crazy those

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crazy green eyes ian mc

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ian mckellen today is 82

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lord of the rings vocal god

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and i'm saying it vocal god klaus

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mina of the scorpions

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today is 73 years old and robbie

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steinhardt of kansas

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is 71. he was the guy that like played

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the flute

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he had the long hair and the beard stood

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in the background

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but he was like the best singer in the

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band i'm just saying dust in the wind

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that's what i'm talking about paul

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weller today jam

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is 63. our dead guy's birthday today is

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moment of silence please

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hal david 1921 to 2012 died at the age

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of 91.

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how i'm not i'm not saying this in any

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form of joked him i'm not trying to be a

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comedian

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hal may have been the greatest

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lyricist that ever lived

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seriously listen to this

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alfie you can almost stop right there

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raindrops keep falling on my head this

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guy's in love with

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you i'll never fall in love again

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do you know the way to san jose one of

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my favorite songs of all time

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walk on by right what the world

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needs now is love

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i'll say a little prayer for you

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there's always something there to remind

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me

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geez one less bell to answer that was

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hal david

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his list of songs and it took me the

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whole show to read it to you

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incredible hal david hal died in the

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early morning hours of september 1st

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2012

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in los angeles california he was 91

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years old happy birthday hal

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tremendous tremendous tremendous

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musician

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on this day in history otd 1977

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say no more star wars opens in theaters

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on this day

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and the world changed

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fader fact all right here we go

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i love this part of the show i do

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fader fact harold

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burgess built the world's

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largest treehouse in crossville

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tennessee after claiming that god

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told him to do so when he finished it

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was 97

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feet tall and had 80 rooms

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it took him 12 years to build

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and it burned down in 15 minutes in 2019

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that is your fader fact

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tonight very special guest live from

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roswell new mexico

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don smith joins us we got a lot to talk

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about big announcement happening tonight

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on the show

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and then tomorrow night right here sean

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stone is back

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we're going to be talking about his new

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film best kept secrets

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that is going to premiere at the ufo

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megacon

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in laughlin nevada thursday night's

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another fader night i

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promise this time around this thursday

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fader night open lines all night long

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all right all right man you guys

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yeah that's it right there kaz that's

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the tree house

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is that oh she posts the headline

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world's largest treehouse burns to the

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ground

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are you calling me on my bs

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i think that's what she i think that's

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that's what cass kaz had to check

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cass google she was like man world's

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largest tree house

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burned down to the ground this can't be

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right

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oh it is ah

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see cass you were surprised you were

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surprised

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today is a big day

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rivermoonwellness.com

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i like my coffee doc

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i do i really do i do i do

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all right

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earlier today the white house press

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secretary

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jen pasaki was asked about the upcoming

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uap

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report from the dni

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wow it was a moment i caught it too

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i caught it i i actually caught it

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it was all over social media and i

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remember and i'm just

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you know and i happened i never had the

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news on it and i happened to have it on

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today and

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that that part was an accident but um

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i wasn't listening to music and it was

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over on the screen and

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and what about what's up what's that

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no way right well

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it certainly went semi-viral i thought

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it was going to take off more than it

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did

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i well but anyway we'll see what happens

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tomorrow

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but when asked these it was like two

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questions it was one cut

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i'll get to that in a minute but part of

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her response

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was this quote we take our incursions

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into our airspace both

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identified and unidentified aircraft

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very seriously end quote

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now there was some grinning

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going on as the reporter said

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unidentified aerial phenomena

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right and and their way and i thought

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there was going to be laughter everybody

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kind of toned it down pretty quick and

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uh and i think that the reporter who

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asked the question or questions

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it was kind of you know but but kind of

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caught jan by surprise

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okay but once the smiling

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stopped she was prepared

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jan was totally serious okay just i'm

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giving it to you straight

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the reporter who i tried to chase down

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who it was and

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and i still don't know at this point um

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who it was and if anybody

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can find out the name of that reporter

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please let me know

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but um she asked

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the reporter said and i'm nearly quoting

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here

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you know um well the biden

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administration

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uh released the report to the public in

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full

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right i was like oh my god

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and i'm waiting for jan's answer i was

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like holy crap

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pasaki said that the potential

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that's a quote from her the potential

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release of the upcoming u.s

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intelligence report on ufos will be

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up to the office of the director of

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national intelligence

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holy crap and then there was this gem

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now i literally went back and watched

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this stop man i probably watched it 15

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times today

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but i went back and transcribed this

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myself

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so i'm going to give this gem to you

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right now quote

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we have a team that is actively working

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on a report

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certainly the safety of our personnel

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security of our operations

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our airspace are of paramount concern

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whether that is unidentified or

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unidentified

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aircraft we don't discuss that

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publicly for a range of reasons

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but certainly the president supports the

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odni

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for putting together a report and

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following through

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on that commitment end quote

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holy crap now

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there is a few things here that we got

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to uh uh

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take apart here for a second but for

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those of you that

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do not know what the odni is

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it's not an agency not in the

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traditional sense

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but it stands for the office of the

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director

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of national intelligence okay

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listen to me for a second

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the director of national intelligence or

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dni

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is a cabinet level official required to

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serve as

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head of the united states intelligence

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community

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and to direct and oversee the national

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intelligence program

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the dni also serves upon invitation

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as an advisor to the president of the

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united states

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and the executive offices of the

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national security council

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and the homeland security council about

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intelligence

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matters related to national security

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the dni is the one who produces the

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president's daily brief

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that top secret document including

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intelligence from all of the

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intelligence community

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agencies that is given to the president

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each morning during breakfast

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well jan also said during the press

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briefing earlier today that

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it was up to the dni

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if the report would be released to the

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public

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four wait for it

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i thought that was a pretty interesting

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choice of words

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seems like everyone right now all the

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way to the oval office

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is on the same page here she said

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disclosure now

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after this press briefing i sat back and

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i thought to myself i said

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have i ever heard this disgust in

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any form from the white house press room

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before like

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as in ever and the answer is

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well no i have not

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and anyone can correct me or inform me

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on this

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but i can't think of any time in my

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lifetime

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that ufos uaps whatever

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have been used in an actual sentence

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think about that it was a totally

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strange experience

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totally strange but it happened

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i watched i listened i rather enjoyed it

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actually and even though there was that

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comment

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you know we'll leave it up to the dni to

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decide if the common people

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like you you commenters are important

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enough

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uh to release it to it's kind of a

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strange

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little you know little you know the

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kind of stick but there was something

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else that was pretty cool

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and i don't know if any of you caught it

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but i did

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and that was the reporter when asking

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the question

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a second time tried to say

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almost said almost slipped with

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ufo almost said aliens

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almost said e.t i could see the wheels

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turning

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in the reporter's head that's what the

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reporter wanted to say

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she was trying to search for the right

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way to say it

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you could feel it and i think jan was

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honestly waiting to hear it too

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by the way she was like right she was

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like leaning in but she landed on uap

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and that was it i was like oh

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here we go it's go time

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say it say it

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but didn't happen and and yes that

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would have been a totally historic

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moment

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but it didn't happen and it's just like

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anything else in ufology man

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almost right nope

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man we were this close man we were this

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close

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so we wait hi murals jimmy church this

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is fade to black

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tonight live from roswell new mexico

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the one and only donald raymond schmidt

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right here on faded black we got a lot

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to discuss tonight and we're going to

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get to a very special announcement

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which most of the show is going to be

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about it is really really cool

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so we're going to do that i want to

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remind everybody tomorrow night sean

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stone is here

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and uh best kept secrets his new film

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we're going to discuss that

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and then thursday nights another fader

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night with open lines all night long

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on the game changer network and kgra

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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you're listening to jimmychurchradio.com

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matthews

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welcome back paint to black i am your

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host jimmy churchill i want to get this

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tweet out really quick

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there you go ron check your twitter

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i don't even want to know your reply

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read

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the tweet ron hudson all right

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tonight live from roswell new mexico

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don schmidt is with us and uh we

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are going to announce the launch of the

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international coalition for

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extraterrestrial research

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i sir this is a nonprofit organization

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you know what

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before i even get to that i want i want

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don

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to tell me i could tell you that's not

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any fun

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00:36:32,390 --> 00:36:30,880
now we all know that uh don schmidt is

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the former director of the j

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allen heineck center for ufo studies in

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chicago

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00:36:40,069 --> 00:36:37,359
where he served as director of special

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investigations for 10 years

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now something you may not know don has

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been doing this

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for 45 years that's part of it

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don also has an autographed photo of him

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in galileo that's right i would like to

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welcome back to fade to black the one

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00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:58,079
and only don schmidt

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john how you doing man i was all of

784
00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:03,119
two years old when i started thank you

785
00:37:05,670 --> 00:37:05,200
jimmy good to be with you again my

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friend

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00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:08,000
yeah now i just had some uh blueberry

788
00:37:13,430 --> 00:37:10,079
cheesecake sent up to your room

789
00:37:13,990 --> 00:37:13,440
oh yes so if it's uh and i'll be on the

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radio

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so if i have to dash away quickly you

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00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:17,920
know why just invite them in

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00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:19,680
just have them come in and join in on

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00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:20,960
the conversation

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00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:23,520
that's all i gotta say don schmidt my

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friend

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00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:27,119
it is so great to hear your voice um

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uh i i just can't express enough uh to

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the audience that uh our friendship that

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00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:34,160
i treasure

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00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:36,079
our conversations that we've had over

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00:37:39,990 --> 00:37:38,320
the years uh you're one of the best

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00:37:41,829 --> 00:37:40,000
the brightest the funniest the coolest

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00:37:43,510 --> 00:37:41,839
people that i know and you happen to be

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00:37:45,829 --> 00:37:43,520
part of the ufo game

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00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:45,839
so on behalf of the ufo community as we

807
00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:46,640
get into this

808
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:49,040
thank you for everything over the years

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00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:50,560
you are truly

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00:37:53,589 --> 00:37:52,480
the absolute best thank you so much don

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and i

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00:37:57,349 --> 00:37:55,280
don't don't say anything don't say

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00:37:59,430 --> 00:37:57,359
anything just keep it

814
00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:59,440
put that in your pocket let's leave it

815
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:00,480
right there

816
00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:04,000
now don um thank you thank you so much

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00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:06,880
i'm very humbled uh and and it just i i

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00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:08,400
seriously mean it we've had so many

819
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:10,000
great moments over the years and they

820
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just

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00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:13,040
absolutely is right right back at you my

822
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:14,000
friend i mean

823
00:38:18,069 --> 00:38:16,320
i think we're we're we're close enough

824
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:18,079
that we'd be right there for one another

825
00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:20,079
if the case should warrant so thank you

826
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:21,440
yeah that that is true

827
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:23,280
and i do want to thank don for sending

828
00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:24,720
me this

829
00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:27,680
box of fine hair care products uh that

830
00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:29,040
came in the mail today

831
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:32,880
and and uh okay

832
00:38:39,030 --> 00:38:36,960
okay not done we we have to yeah did you

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00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:39,040
it yeah and if you peel off the fake

834
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:40,320
label it says nair

835
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:42,960
underneath yeah it does it does it does

836
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:44,880
i'm gonna be bald tomorrow you gotta

837
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:45,599
even

838
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:49,599
seriousness

839
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:52,320
you must be we're gonna get to icer in

840
00:38:57,190 --> 00:38:53,680
in just a minute

841
00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:57,200
but you've been at this for so long now

842
00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:00,320
and where we are today

843
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:03,599
you must feel pretty good this is the

844
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:05,280
craziest time

845
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:07,440
that we have ever been through in the

846
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:09,040
world of ufos

847
00:39:12,630 --> 00:39:10,560
and hopefully it's going to have a good

848
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:12,640
ending pretty soon

849
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,040
but did you ever expect it to elevate to

850
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:17,520
this level

851
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:20,320
not with as many state officials that

852
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:22,000
are speaking out

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00:39:25,670 --> 00:39:24,640
as though reading from all the same

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script

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00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:28,720
as to their talking points and

856
00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:31,599
that's unusual we've never seen this

857
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:32,880
before

858
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:35,920
i was with heinek i was there at times

859
00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:36,960
when

860
00:39:41,750 --> 00:39:39,839
he'd be rushed to wgn in chicago and

861
00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:41,760
there was an eminent announcement coming

862
00:39:44,069 --> 00:39:42,079
from

863
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:44,079
washington and they wanted him

864
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:45,440
immediately there for

865
00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:48,320
you know a quick response and one the

866
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:49,520
first time was with the ford

867
00:39:53,190 --> 00:39:51,520
administration then after that with the

868
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:53,200
carter administration

869
00:39:59,430 --> 00:39:56,880
and we just became accustomed to just

870
00:40:00,550 --> 00:39:59,440
watching the old shell game that it was

871
00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:00,560
just a bluff

872
00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:03,680
it was just more of taunting us

873
00:40:07,910 --> 00:40:06,560
rubbing it in our faces so to speak but

874
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:07,920
now when you have

875
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:11,040
a navy a navy task force that is

876
00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:13,040
preparing a report

877
00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:15,119
and then submit it as far as before

878
00:40:20,710 --> 00:40:17,680
congress by the end of next month

879
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:20,720
and we can only guess based on what

880
00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:22,720
they've already acknowledged and the

881
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:24,000
pentagon chiming in

882
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:27,680
as well i for one and for

883
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:30,400
any of your listeners who don't realize

884
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:31,760
that the different branches of the

885
00:40:34,630 --> 00:40:32,640
military are

886
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:34,640
very much in competition with one

887
00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:35,920
another the

888
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:39,040
uh the other part of it yes

889
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:41,200
and you're absolutely right and i just

890
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:42,319
interrupted you don

891
00:40:46,870 --> 00:40:45,680
but um you had a very busy day today and

892
00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:46,880
and i understand that

893
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:51,200
but uh earlier today as far as i know

894
00:40:58,390 --> 00:40:54,480
jan pasaki from the

895
00:41:01,589 --> 00:40:58,400
white house press room talked about ufos

896
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:01,599
with the press yes what what

897
00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:06,000
is going and now do you remember and i

898
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:07,599
want you to think about this

899
00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:10,640
do you remember ufos being discussed in

900
00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:12,720
the press room at the white house

901
00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:16,000
ever never never never i'll give you a

902
00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:16,800
quick

903
00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:19,920
you know example when heineck had

904
00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:22,160
long finished with project blue book he

905
00:41:25,910 --> 00:41:23,040
already started

906
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:25,920
the center for ufo studies and it was

907
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:26,640
during

908
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:29,359
the the ford administration and

909
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:30,640
originally

910
00:41:34,069 --> 00:41:32,880
his congressional representative was

911
00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:34,079
none other than

912
00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:37,119
donald rumsfeld who then went on to

913
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:38,640
serve as secretary of defense with the

914
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:40,560
ford administration and then the george

915
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:41,680
w bush

916
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:44,640
uh presidency so heinek was in

917
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:46,079
washington

918
00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:48,800
gerald ford president and he thought he

919
00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:50,400
would stop by

920
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:52,560
have a a private conversation with

921
00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:54,319
rumsfeld

922
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:56,720
and he sat down with him in his office

923
00:41:59,589 --> 00:41:57,839
and asked

924
00:42:02,870 --> 00:41:59,599
and he explained he said you know i've

925
00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:02,880
given you 20 years of my life

926
00:42:06,069 --> 00:42:05,520
i've devoted as far as all my time and

927
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:06,079
effort

928
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:09,680
to help you essentially come up with a

929
00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:13,680
a con a resolution as to the ufo mystery

930
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:16,319
and you have stonewalled me and i did

931
00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:18,079
not have access to all the data i

932
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,079
believe i have every right

933
00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:22,560
to know the truth was i just chasing

934
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:23,280
ghosts

935
00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:25,839
or is there something really behind all

936
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:26,720
this

937
00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:29,359
and i'll never forget heinek when he

938
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:31,359
explained the way ramasthal got up from

939
00:42:36,069 --> 00:42:33,040
behind his desk

940
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:36,079
walked over leaned down over the top of

941
00:42:39,910 --> 00:42:37,440
the sitting heinek

942
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:39,920
pointed his finger in his face and went

943
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:40,480
you

944
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:44,160
have no right to know

945
00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:47,440
so it's like we've been there

946
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:49,680
and then we have the rug pulled out from

947
00:42:53,750 --> 00:42:50,800
beneath us

948
00:42:55,349 --> 00:42:53,760
and it's like okay were we just dupes

949
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:55,359
did we just fall once again

950
00:42:59,349 --> 00:42:57,839
for this old you know smoking mirrors

951
00:43:01,349 --> 00:42:59,359
you know don't pay attention to the man

952
00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:01,359
behind the curtain that type of thing

953
00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:03,119
or is this going to be the genuine

954
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,480
article well

955
00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:06,480
the way they are painting this mosaic

956
00:43:08,950 --> 00:43:08,319
right now it's like everybody and

957
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:08,960
anybody

958
00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:12,319
who has an opinion is speaking in total

959
00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:13,359
favor

960
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:15,359
i mean that the phenomenon exists we're

961
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:17,200
dealing with the technology beyond our

962
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:18,240
control

963
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:20,000
they defy the law the physics of the

964
00:43:23,349 --> 00:43:21,440
laws of physics but

965
00:43:25,349 --> 00:43:23,359
the one thing that concerns me jimmy is

966
00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:25,359
that they're they're behaving as though

967
00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:26,000
this is a

968
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:28,640
new phenomenon that this has only

969
00:43:34,230 --> 00:43:30,960
recently become a threat

970
00:43:37,430 --> 00:43:34,240
and the over emphasis on the word threat

971
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:37,440
and so i ask where have they been in all

972
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:38,560
these years

973
00:43:43,750 --> 00:43:41,599
since the 40s 50s 60s and on and

974
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:43,760
behaving as though none of the past

975
00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:45,359
history even matters or

976
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:48,800
that it doesn't even exist the

977
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:52,560
why though why the change in climate why

978
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:55,680
now yes yes exactly

979
00:44:02,069 --> 00:43:58,720
why now what uh

980
00:44:04,470 --> 00:44:02,079
was there just imagine and we we both

981
00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:04,480
remember like the old thomas mantel case

982
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:07,280
over godman air force base in january of

983
00:44:11,829 --> 00:44:08,800
1948

984
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:11,839
and the pilot that went down in pursuit

985
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:14,240
of what they thought was a ufo and they

986
00:44:17,190 --> 00:44:15,119
explained the way

987
00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:17,200
as a skyhook balloon okay fine but

988
00:44:20,829 --> 00:44:19,040
nonetheless just imagine

989
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:20,839
should there have been a situation

990
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:22,560
involving a

991
00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:28,400
or something else that would be the type

992
00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:31,280
of thing that would force their hand

993
00:44:35,589 --> 00:44:33,599
and especially if there were surviving

994
00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:35,599
witnesses and especially if there were

995
00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:36,800
whistleblowers

996
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:39,680
but it's like okay we've been dealing

997
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:41,839
with this for every day for the last

998
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:42,960
couple years

999
00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:45,280
and and harry reid that they had the

1000
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:47,119
commission as far as that atip

1001
00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:50,640
working on this since 2004 and okay well

1002
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:52,720
we didn't know about it but what

1003
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:56,160
necessitated it back then for example

1004
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:59,040
so one of the things i believe that is

1005
00:45:02,069 --> 00:44:59,520
behind

1006
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:02,079
all this is the fact that senator reid

1007
00:45:07,030 --> 00:45:04,000
who's not well i mean he is

1008
00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:07,040
uh suffering from cancer that

1009
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:10,079
maybe there is some urgency

1010
00:45:14,390 --> 00:45:12,800
on the part that they feel he deserves

1011
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:14,400
some answers

1012
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:16,560
they may be is just as much in the dark

1013
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:18,000
as we are and they're going to

1014
00:45:23,829 --> 00:45:21,440
give him a bone or two

1015
00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:23,839
that's just one speculation that's one

1016
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:25,359
and do you have a second

1017
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:28,000
or can i give a second speculation

1018
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:29,920
please please and then i'll give a third

1019
00:45:33,829 --> 00:45:32,079
yeah okay let's let's trade i'm

1020
00:45:37,109 --> 00:45:33,839
wondering

1021
00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:37,119
if they are trying to and i'm talking

1022
00:45:41,589 --> 00:45:38,400
about the establishment

1023
00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:41,599
in general that could be uh politicians

1024
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:43,359
that could be lawmakers that could be

1025
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:46,160
the white house but it also includes uh

1026
00:45:50,790 --> 00:45:48,160
the dod and the pentagon

1027
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:50,800
um and the agencies that they may be

1028
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:52,079
trying to get out

1029
00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:55,440
in front of something that they are not

1030
00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:57,440
in control of what that may be i don't

1031
00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:57,920
know

1032
00:46:01,990 --> 00:46:00,319
right a spacecraft is approaching earth

1033
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:02,000
it's going to be here in two years

1034
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:04,960
right i don't know it could be yes yes

1035
00:46:08,470 --> 00:46:05,680
but

1036
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:08,480
maybe they are just trying to control

1037
00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:10,160
the situation

1038
00:46:14,309 --> 00:46:12,319
it's something that is not in their

1039
00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:14,319
control and this is the best way to deal

1040
00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:16,720
with it at this time

1041
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:20,880
that could very well be the case but

1042
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:23,680
why is the air force so strangely quiet

1043
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:25,040
right now

1044
00:46:28,710 --> 00:46:26,880
we're talking about you know the

1045
00:46:31,109 --> 00:46:28,720
arbiters of the cover-up

1046
00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:31,119
all this time and when i had mentioned

1047
00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:33,440
earlier about you know all the branches

1048
00:46:37,750 --> 00:46:35,680
of the service being in competition i

1049
00:46:38,870 --> 00:46:37,760
think a great example was during desert

1050
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:38,880
storm

1051
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:42,400
know

1052
00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:44,560
chief of staff of the army during the

1053
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:45,680
war

1054
00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:48,480
at his daily briefings complained each

1055
00:46:51,990 --> 00:46:48,880
and

1056
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:52,000
every time that they didn't know what

1057
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:53,920
page the air force was on

1058
00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:57,119
and the navy they were didn't know if

1059
00:47:02,069 --> 00:46:59,440
they were to march into downtown baghdad

1060
00:47:03,349 --> 00:47:02,079
because the air force had declared total

1061
00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:03,359
fair supremacy

1062
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:04,960
and yet the navy was still launching

1063
00:47:09,910 --> 00:47:06,960
tomahawks into the city

1064
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:09,920
so it was a you know a modern example of

1065
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,800
where

1066
00:47:14,309 --> 00:47:12,480
they're not singing from the same choir

1067
00:47:18,309 --> 00:47:14,319
book and so

1068
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:18,319
i question i'd i'd like to believe jimmy

1069
00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:18,640
that

1070
00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:20,960
it's the navy finally saying we've

1071
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:23,119
allowed the air force to speak

1072
00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:26,800
on our behalf on this topic for

1073
00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:30,079
over 70 years and our pilots just can't

1074
00:47:33,349 --> 00:47:30,480
keep

1075
00:47:34,790 --> 00:47:33,359
you know continue continuing as far as

1076
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:34,800
having these encounters having these

1077
00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:36,160
experiences

1078
00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:38,720
and that we are now going to treat this

1079
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:40,079
as the navy should have from the very

1080
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:40,960
beginning

1081
00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:42,720
and we're going to allow them to speak

1082
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:44,400
out we're going to allow them to

1083
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:46,240
you know as far as go public with their

1084
00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:47,760
experiences if it indeed does not

1085
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:49,359
threaten national security

1086
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:52,880
and basically damn the air force

1087
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:54,640
uh you know another good example is when

1088
00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:56,079
the air air force project blue books

1089
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:57,760
were declassified

1090
00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:01,440
in 1977 over 13 000 cases

1091
00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:03,680
and it was well where where are all the

1092
00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:05,200
navy cases

1093
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:07,200
you could count them on one hand and now

1094
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:10,720
it's the baby certainly has

1095
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:13,680
and today it's the opposite you know

1096
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:15,119
right i find it very

1097
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:18,160
strange and i uh i can't

1098
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:21,200
quite wrap my head around it but where

1099
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:22,800
is the air force right now it seems to

1100
00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:23,119
be

1101
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:27,200
that we have the

1102
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:28,960
army we have the marines we have the

1103
00:48:33,750 --> 00:48:30,800
coast guard right

1104
00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:33,760
nobody else is chiming in right now this

1105
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:34,880
is just a

1106
00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:38,319
united states navy situation it's only

1107
00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:40,640
united states navy pilots that are

1108
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:42,319
seeing stuff or

1109
00:48:46,309 --> 00:48:44,400
the air force doesn't want their pilots

1110
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:46,319
to say anything why aren't they getting

1111
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:47,280
involved

1112
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:49,680
certainly the air force well we know

1113
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:50,640
what they've uh

1114
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:53,040
been dealing with for the last 70 years

1115
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,400
but all of a sudden

1116
00:48:59,910 --> 00:48:56,400
it's a united states navy issue and i

1117
00:49:02,630 --> 00:48:59,920
don't i don't get that part of it don

1118
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:02,640
well i'll grant it i i mean we've always

1119
00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:04,880
suspected the navy just because they

1120
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:05,920
would have global

1121
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:08,160
surveillance global coverage whereas our

1122
00:49:12,549 --> 00:49:10,400
air force you know had very restricted

1123
00:49:14,150 --> 00:49:12,559
you know airspace sovereignty as far as

1124
00:49:15,670 --> 00:49:14,160
uh in our country and

1125
00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:15,680
then some of our allies that type of

1126
00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:17,680
thing so if

1127
00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:19,839
the air force had over 13 000 cases

1128
00:49:24,069 --> 00:49:22,160
leading up to 1969 we could only imagine

1129
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:24,079
what the navy may have accumulated

1130
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:28,160
up to today so that's where

1131
00:49:32,309 --> 00:49:31,520
if the navy comes up short-handed next

1132
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:32,319
month

1133
00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:34,400
then i'm really going to be questioning

1134
00:49:39,510 --> 00:49:37,119
as to what is at stake here because

1135
00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:39,520
they should have truckloads of

1136
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:40,800
documentation

1137
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:43,280
now what are you not only including ufos

1138
00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:44,720
but also usos

1139
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:47,839
underwater you know unidentified objects

1140
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:50,720
no doubt no doubt um i ask everybody the

1141
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:52,079
same thing

1142
00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:54,880
friends family guest on this show i ask

1143
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:57,280
everybody the same thing what do you

1144
00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:00,640
what do you expect not what you hope for

1145
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:04,000
but what do you expect that report to uh

1146
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:07,119
have in it uh

1147
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:09,119
the this i'm sure this is almost

1148
00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:11,440
becoming a cliche but uh the disclosure

1149
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:12,000
with a small

1150
00:50:15,990 --> 00:50:14,880
d in the sense that there's something

1151
00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:16,000
there

1152
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:19,200
we are encountering these unknowns

1153
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:22,400
on a regular basis they clearly are

1154
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:25,200
intelligently controlled they certainly

1155
00:50:28,390 --> 00:50:26,880
demonstrate superior flight

1156
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:28,400
characteristics

1157
00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:30,400
and at times even you know break the

1158
00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:32,559
laws of physics as we know them so to

1159
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:33,119
speak

1160
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:36,000
but we're on it we're on it and it's

1161
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:38,319
like the classic you know police gumshoe

1162
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:40,240
type of you know detective

1163
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:43,040
um whether he is working on the case or

1164
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:43,440
not

1165
00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:46,400
i'm on it i'm on it and it always you

1166
00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:47,680
know cast aside

1167
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:50,720
any further questioning or aspersions

1168
00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:53,520
because hey i'll i'll report i'll get

1169
00:50:56,710 --> 00:50:55,119
back to you when i have something

1170
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:56,720
and that can be drawn out for the next

1171
00:51:02,069 --> 00:50:58,400
75 years

1172
00:51:05,109 --> 00:51:02,079
so i'm concerned that but it would be

1173
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:05,119
a major major breakthrough just they're

1174
00:51:07,990 --> 00:51:05,839
admitting

1175
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:08,000
there is something there because the air

1176
00:51:14,069 --> 00:51:10,880
force has denied this

1177
00:51:16,069 --> 00:51:14,079
for 75 years

1178
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:16,079
the they deny that there's anything

1179
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:17,200
there that's right

1180
00:51:20,790 --> 00:51:19,680
and uh last night i had danny sheehan on

1181
00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:20,800
the show

1182
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:24,000
and he said something that uh i

1183
00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:26,160
i thought about a little bit you know

1184
00:51:30,069 --> 00:51:27,920
it's more like a pandora's box you know

1185
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:30,079
i'm going to keep this sealed up and

1186
00:51:34,549 --> 00:51:32,559
but he said something last night when i

1187
00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:34,559
asked him the same question

1188
00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:36,960
uh that kind of stopped me in my tracks

1189
00:51:41,990 --> 00:51:39,280
down and he said you know what

1190
00:51:44,470 --> 00:51:42,000
they're just gonna ask for more time

1191
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:44,480
there's gonna be no report in june

1192
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:46,319
they're gonna ask for more time and

1193
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:49,040
they're gonna get it

1194
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:51,280
and they will get it because it takes

1195
00:51:56,230 --> 00:51:53,680
them both it takes all of them

1196
00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:56,240
the the marco rubio you know the the

1197
00:52:00,230 --> 00:51:57,920
intel subcommittee oh it takes

1198
00:52:01,829 --> 00:52:00,240
all of them off the hot seat right now

1199
00:52:04,150 --> 00:52:01,839
that's right and

1200
00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:04,160
and as you probably have heard who

1201
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:07,040
already has asked for an extension

1202
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:11,200
but the air force the air force already

1203
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:13,040
has asked for more time

1204
00:52:17,589 --> 00:52:15,040
now we remember when the late

1205
00:52:19,589 --> 00:52:17,599
congressman stephen schiff

1206
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:19,599
had to enlist a general accounting

1207
00:52:23,910 --> 00:52:20,640
office then

1208
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:23,920
congress's own investigative body

1209
00:52:27,670 --> 00:52:26,079
with a document search that he went to

1210
00:52:29,270 --> 00:52:27,680
all the branches of the military as well

1211
00:52:31,750 --> 00:52:29,280
as departments of intelligence

1212
00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:31,760
and they were to do a document search

1213
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:32,720
anything and everything

1214
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:34,400
pertaining to the roswell incident of

1215
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:36,000
1947

1216
00:52:41,430 --> 00:52:39,119
and they all came up empty-handed

1217
00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:41,440
for the gao to then you know draw the

1218
00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:42,240
conclusion

1219
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:44,960
hey all the records were destroyed

1220
00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:46,800
everything for the first atomic

1221
00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:50,880
bomb base in the world back in 1947

1222
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:54,800
somebody decided to burn all the records

1223
00:52:58,549 --> 00:52:56,880
and the press walked away and went well

1224
00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:58,559
sounds good enough to me

1225
00:53:02,549 --> 00:53:00,800
because they were also taken off the

1226
00:53:05,589 --> 00:53:02,559
hook because they didn't have to do

1227
00:53:09,589 --> 00:53:05,599
another minutes worth of effort

1228
00:53:13,349 --> 00:53:09,599
the general accounting office

1229
00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:13,359
which has tremendous power and authority

1230
00:53:17,030 --> 00:53:16,079
right tremendous absolutely absolutely

1231
00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:17,040
so they come in

1232
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:19,839
and they want uh bills what did you

1233
00:53:24,950 --> 00:53:21,359
spend money on

1234
00:53:27,990 --> 00:53:24,960
uh the tapes the audio

1235
00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:28,000
any any film records any

1236
00:53:33,270 --> 00:53:30,800
paper trails anything and everything

1237
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:33,280
it's the general accounting office

1238
00:53:38,309 --> 00:53:36,960
nobody had a receipt nobody received any

1239
00:53:41,190 --> 00:53:38,319
recordings nobody

1240
00:53:42,630 --> 00:53:41,200
signed for any documents there was no

1241
00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:42,640
accounting

1242
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:45,359
whatsoever with anything to do with

1243
00:53:49,430 --> 00:53:46,559
roswell

1244
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:49,440
and you got to step back down and go

1245
00:53:53,270 --> 00:53:51,440
that's that's a load of crap

1246
00:53:55,990 --> 00:53:53,280
it's an impossibility that's an

1247
00:53:59,349 --> 00:53:56,000
impossibility absolutely

1248
00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:59,359
and at the time that the base

1249
00:54:03,750 --> 00:54:01,920
in roswell was conducting daily bomb

1250
00:54:06,309 --> 00:54:03,760
drop exercises

1251
00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:06,319
they were having b-29s that occasionally

1252
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:07,680
crashed

1253
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:10,800
in the area just outside you know the

1254
00:54:14,549 --> 00:54:12,240
city limits

1255
00:54:15,589 --> 00:54:14,559
there were fatalities families had to be

1256
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:15,599
notified

1257
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:17,680
as far as there was additional expenses

1258
00:54:24,069 --> 00:54:20,880
as far as recovery retrieval operations

1259
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:24,079
so they were constantly shifting money

1260
00:54:31,030 --> 00:54:27,520
and conducting what

1261
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:31,040
looked like training exercises that all

1262
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:33,119
happen at the same time of the recovery

1263
00:54:36,710 --> 00:54:34,240
operation

1264
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:36,720
for the craft of unknown origin as it

1265
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:38,720
was called and that is how they

1266
00:54:41,589 --> 00:54:40,240
disguised everything

1267
00:54:44,309 --> 00:54:41,599
the fact that they went through that

1268
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:44,319
effort and then for the gao to be told

1269
00:54:48,309 --> 00:54:46,559
but there's absolutely no accounting

1270
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:48,319
not a record you were absolutely quite

1271
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:49,920
accurate jimmy when you said as far as

1272
00:54:54,069 --> 00:54:51,040
not a bill

1273
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:54,079
not a receipt not an accounting

1274
00:54:59,990 --> 00:54:57,839
record of anything for the first atomic

1275
00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:00,000
bomb base in the world at that time

1276
00:55:04,710 --> 00:55:02,640
and it's like how convenient can we get

1277
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:04,720
we'd see that in a movie we'd walk out

1278
00:55:08,150 --> 00:55:07,440
because it was too predictable they said

1279
00:55:09,990 --> 00:55:08,160
uh

1280
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:10,000
there was one comment before we head to

1281
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:11,599
the break here um

1282
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:15,280
and of course we're going back now uh 25

1283
00:55:21,430 --> 00:55:15,839
years

1284
00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:21,440
that report was released

1285
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:23,920
but there was uh there was this comment

1286
00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:24,960
from them

1287
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:28,960
um we had the records

1288
00:55:41,109 --> 00:55:37,990
all the records right all the records

1289
00:55:43,589 --> 00:55:41,119
all the records and the point being

1290
00:55:44,710 --> 00:55:43,599
it wasn't just the records from the army

1291
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:44,720
and then to throw in

1292
00:55:48,309 --> 00:55:47,520
quickly the red herring that the uh the

1293
00:55:51,750 --> 00:55:48,319
then

1294
00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:51,760
and actually that was the 1994 so we're

1295
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:53,760
now talking 27 years

1296
00:55:58,230 --> 00:55:56,160
when they came out with that report and

1297
00:56:01,910 --> 00:55:58,240
and then the gao report right after

1298
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:01,920
and actually the geo go gao report came

1299
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:03,280
out right after that

1300
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:05,760
but sheila windhall secretary of the air

1301
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:06,960
force at that time

1302
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:08,400
she puts out a statement and she

1303
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:11,520
absolves all air force personnel

1304
00:56:16,789 --> 00:56:15,040
of any oaths of secrecy

1305
00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:16,799
that they had pertaining to roswell that

1306
00:56:21,430 --> 00:56:18,720
they were free to talk they were free to

1307
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:21,440
go out to the press and say i was there

1308
00:56:25,270 --> 00:56:22,720
let me tell you what i

1309
00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:25,280
actually was involved with and not a

1310
00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:26,799
member of the press picked up on the

1311
00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:27,760
fact

1312
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:30,720
there was no air force in july of 1947

1313
00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:32,799
this was an army incident

1314
00:56:37,349 --> 00:56:35,359
how does the air force absolve the army

1315
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:37,359
of a security oath

1316
00:56:43,670 --> 00:56:40,720
most people don't remember

1317
00:56:44,150 --> 00:56:43,680
roswell it wasn't roswell air force base

1318
00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:44,160
it was

1319
00:56:50,549 --> 00:56:47,920
roswell army airfield airfield correct

1320
00:56:51,510 --> 00:56:50,559
that is what it was called in the army

1321
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:51,520
the the best

1322
00:56:55,270 --> 00:56:54,079
the best i i'll never forget this i was

1323
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:55,280
in my car

1324
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:58,319
at alesis and i get this

1325
00:57:01,750 --> 00:57:00,720
uh uh thing and i'm i'm reading it but

1326
00:57:05,270 --> 00:57:01,760
anyway

1327
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:05,280
um on my computer inside of alesis and i

1328
00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:05,920
see the

1329
00:57:11,589 --> 00:57:09,280
it's on cnn or something that uh

1330
00:57:12,309 --> 00:57:11,599
roswell case closed the report has just

1331
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:12,319
come out

1332
00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:15,359
right right so now i go and

1333
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:17,040
i just i remember it like it was

1334
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:18,480
yesterday don

1335
00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:21,520
i read the report and it says

1336
00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:23,599
and especially those of us that have

1337
00:57:28,710 --> 00:57:24,799
been at this for

1338
00:57:31,430 --> 00:57:28,720
a while back then i read everything i

1339
00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:31,440
i just i absorbed you know this is

1340
00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:33,200
before the internet i had the books i

1341
00:57:35,829 --> 00:57:34,880
had all of your books you know i had

1342
00:57:39,190 --> 00:57:35,839
everything

1343
00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:39,200
and uh yes and it said

1344
00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:42,720
it was a project mogul balloon

1345
00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:45,280
and dummy and i'm walking to my car and

1346
00:57:47,589 --> 00:57:46,559
i'm thinking about this i'm like wait a

1347
00:57:51,589 --> 00:57:47,599
minute

1348
00:57:53,910 --> 00:57:51,599
that was 1954.

1349
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:53,920
that was you know i remember and

1350
00:58:00,150 --> 00:57:56,480
everybody in the ufo community

1351
00:58:02,789 --> 00:58:00,160
knew this and by going there we all knew

1352
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:02,799
that that was just a bold face lie they

1353
00:58:05,670 --> 00:58:04,480
didn't even have their facts straight

1354
00:58:07,670 --> 00:58:05,680
they go and they state

1355
00:58:09,430 --> 00:58:07,680
this and they didn't even go and check

1356
00:58:11,829 --> 00:58:09,440
dates on their own

1357
00:58:14,309 --> 00:58:11,839
projects when these dummies were thrown

1358
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:14,319
out of the planes what year that was

1359
00:58:20,870 --> 00:58:17,520
you know it was uh what seven

1360
00:58:22,230 --> 00:58:20,880
seven years after ross seven years after

1361
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:22,240
roswell correct

1362
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:25,440
it it blew my heart and they get away

1363
00:58:30,549 --> 00:58:27,119
with it because they play

1364
00:58:33,030 --> 00:58:30,559
off of the ignorance especially of the

1365
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:33,040
mainstream media who in many ways have

1366
00:58:37,589 --> 00:58:34,480
been willing accomplices

1367
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:37,599
regarding this subject from the get-go

1368
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:39,760
because they actually would have to get

1369
00:58:43,589 --> 00:58:41,520
out and conduct some independent

1370
00:58:46,710 --> 00:58:43,599
investigation on their own

1371
00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:46,720
and um they always you know you know

1372
00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:50,240
take the the point of least resistance

1373
00:58:54,470 --> 00:58:52,720
and and that happened to be paid balloon

1374
00:58:56,390 --> 00:58:54,480
sounds good to me

1375
00:58:58,710 --> 00:58:56,400
i remember driving bomb squadron in the

1376
00:58:59,990 --> 00:58:58,720
world you know misidentified a weather

1377
00:59:02,230 --> 00:59:00,000
balloon

1378
00:59:03,750 --> 00:59:02,240
as a flying saucer first and only time

1379
00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:03,760
in history that has ever happened i

1380
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:04,960
remember driving home

1381
00:59:10,870 --> 00:59:08,160
i'm on the 405 freeway just

1382
00:59:11,510 --> 00:59:10,880
just they're lying to us again man

1383
00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:11,520
they're like

1384
00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:15,040
i just remember being so angry

1385
00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:17,119
and it was just so blatant i thought man

1386
00:59:20,950 --> 00:59:18,960
this they're gonna uncover this

1387
00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:20,960
now we're gonna get to the truth you

1388
00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:22,079
know and you know

1389
00:59:28,470 --> 00:59:25,200
again uh 25 uh that was uh

1390
00:59:31,510 --> 00:59:28,480
that was 97

1391
00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:31,520
97 was the uh when just before the 50th

1392
00:59:32,990 --> 00:59:32,079
anniversary

1393
00:59:35,109 --> 00:59:33,000
that's when they came out with the

1394
00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:35,119
optimorphic wooden crash dummies

1395
00:59:39,670 --> 00:59:37,760
yeah yeah yeah let's uh the people

1396
00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:39,680
laughed at the press conference

1397
00:59:43,589 --> 00:59:41,920
let's take our break it was that

1398
00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:43,599
ridiculous

1399
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:45,760
don schmidt okay when we come back we

1400
00:59:50,470 --> 00:59:47,920
got a big announcement that we're gonna

1401
00:59:51,190 --> 00:59:50,480
uh announce we're gonna announce a big

1402
00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:51,200
announcement

1403
00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:53,760
uh don i just said announce an

1404
00:59:58,630 --> 00:59:56,640
announcement four times in two sentences

1405
00:59:59,750 --> 00:59:58,640
all of that and much more don schmidt is

1406
01:00:01,910 --> 00:59:59,760
our guest forgive you

1407
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:01,920
this is thank you this is paid to black

1408
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:03,520
admirals jimmy church stay with us we'll

1409
01:00:26,789 --> 01:00:24,630
[Music]

1410
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:26,799
this is fade to black with jimmy church

1411
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:29,200
on the game changer radio network

1412
01:00:36,630 --> 01:00:34,160
and kgra the global radio alliance

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01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:23,599
tonight don schmidt is here live from

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roswell new mexico what is he doing in

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roswell

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well we're about to find out and don

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01:05:36,710 --> 01:05:34,880
uh this announcement um as i

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01:05:38,470 --> 01:05:36,720
i got the press release and everything

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01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:38,480
and and and took a look at this

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01:05:41,510 --> 01:05:40,880
i thought well how exciting the timing

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couldn't be

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better and everybody is now probably

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wondering what the heck we're talking

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01:05:50,950 --> 01:05:48,000
about

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so let's and and i mentioned it earlier

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uh

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icer the international coalition for

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01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:56,400
extraterrestrial research

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01:06:02,150 --> 01:05:59,839
what is it well it uh

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01:06:02,870 --> 01:06:02,160
had its beginnings in china of all

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places

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and i had been to china on three

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occasions and

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it wasn't with the plan of creating

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any type of an international a

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01:06:19,029 --> 01:06:14,799
collection of researchers

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01:06:22,870 --> 01:06:19,039
or investigators until we were invited

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01:06:27,430 --> 01:06:22,880
to uh put on a proposal

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01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:27,440
in moscow and we had a five continent

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as far as meeting and we spent the

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better part of three days

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01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:35,839
it was essentially banging out a

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project that we could put together this

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coalition

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how we would search out and select you

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know the the best

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academic and scholars and scientists and

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researchers

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in the field from these respective

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countries and and set a goal

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of 30 countries that we then potentially

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would be

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recognized by unesco with the united

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nations

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and we'd also be able to then be invited

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to present

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research papers at the un

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01:07:12,470 --> 01:07:10,079
and so it took us the better part of

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three years and we were you know

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that's the wonderful thing about zoom

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because

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we were with translators and you know

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each

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week every other week and meetings that

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went on for three hours

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01:07:28,630 --> 01:07:27,760
and basically just putting this all

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together

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that and so long before there was any

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talk of this navy task force and the

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report before congress

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and um you know it it just happened to

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be

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totally coincidental on that on that

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01:07:47,990 --> 01:07:44,319
part but we just felt that

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we're beyond investigation we don't need

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to keep you know

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chasing lights in the skies any longer

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if we haven't at least drawn certain

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conclusions by now

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and then to hear these researchers in

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these other countries

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you know talking about how we need to

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cooperate and we need to work together

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01:08:09,109 --> 01:08:08,480
for the first time a jail and a heineken

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this was

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this would be a dream come true for him

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01:08:16,870 --> 01:08:14,160
because this is unprecedented the idea

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of nearly 30 countries are finally

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saying

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they're stating to the world we have

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already

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concluded and we accept the fact that we

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01:08:28,390 --> 01:08:24,880
are dealing with an

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intelligence off the earth that we still

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01:08:31,030 --> 01:08:30,400
have no answers as to where they are

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01:08:33,430 --> 01:08:31,040
from

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01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:33,440
what their intentions are if they are a

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threat or not

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01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:38,159
but we need to come together and make

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01:08:43,030 --> 01:08:39,600
those determinations

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01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:43,040
and in the process educate the people

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01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:46,080
as to this being a global phenomenon it

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01:08:49,269 --> 01:08:46,719
was like

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01:08:50,630 --> 01:08:49,279
maria bartonola on fox a few weeks ago

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01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:50,640
when she was talking to

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01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:52,799
john ratcliffe former director of

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01:08:56,229 --> 01:08:53,839
national

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01:08:58,390 --> 01:08:56,239
intelligence and she was just

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01:09:00,709 --> 01:08:58,400
dumbfounded when he said that there were

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01:09:02,630 --> 01:09:00,719
sightings in other countries

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01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:02,640
so once again you know our keepers at

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01:09:05,349 --> 01:09:04,560
the gate who know nothing of this

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01:09:09,030 --> 01:09:05,359
subject

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01:09:12,149 --> 01:09:09,040
well it's time that we once again

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01:09:14,950 --> 01:09:12,159
jump in the driver's seat and

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01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:14,960
talk to the public tell the public as

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01:09:19,669 --> 01:09:17,040
far as the accumulated research

1627
01:09:20,709 --> 01:09:19,679
that we have from country after country

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01:09:23,990 --> 01:09:20,719
at the country

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01:09:27,349 --> 01:09:24,000
and present it to the world how

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01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:27,359
is it um how is it going to be handled

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01:09:34,709 --> 01:09:31,359
uh what what is the actual structure

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01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:34,719
of icer is there well

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01:09:39,110 --> 01:09:36,480
let's actually break that down for a

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01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:39,120
second uh you must have physicists

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01:09:48,709 --> 01:09:45,990
academia i don't know if there's

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01:09:50,149 --> 01:09:48,719
politicians involved or ex-military i

1637
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:50,159
don't know i'm going to ask you all of

1638
01:09:54,310 --> 01:09:50,880
those questions

1639
01:09:54,790 --> 01:09:54,320
no but also but also lawyers because we

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01:10:02,390 --> 01:09:54,800
tend

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01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:02,400
especially for example post

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01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:04,800
uh world war ii germany where they

1643
01:10:09,990 --> 01:10:07,280
essentially did not have a government

1644
01:10:12,229 --> 01:10:10,000
i mean they essentially were being run

1645
01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:12,239
and they were already split in half by

1646
01:10:19,110 --> 01:10:16,000
russia and the united states and yet

1647
01:10:21,669 --> 01:10:19,120
all of their ufo incidents

1648
01:10:22,630 --> 01:10:21,679
fell into that you know black hole so to

1649
01:10:26,229 --> 01:10:22,640
speak

1650
01:10:30,070 --> 01:10:26,239
well we would assume that they would all

1651
01:10:33,189 --> 01:10:30,080
have been transferred especially over to

1652
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:33,199
the american side of the equation and

1653
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:35,440
that being project zion grudge blue book

1654
01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:36,480
that type of thing

1655
01:10:41,030 --> 01:10:38,719
that they were men the united states was

1656
01:10:41,830 --> 01:10:41,040
managing german ufo reports post world

1657
01:10:45,430 --> 01:10:41,840
war ii

1658
01:10:47,110 --> 01:10:45,440
okay so when we've sat down and we've

1659
01:10:47,669 --> 01:10:47,120
talked to german officials and they

1660
01:10:51,189 --> 01:10:47,679
would just

1661
01:10:54,310 --> 01:10:51,199
love a chance to go through a good

1662
01:10:55,990 --> 01:10:54,320
dozen years that are now just vacant

1663
01:10:58,310 --> 01:10:56,000
that it's a mystery

1664
01:10:59,830 --> 01:10:58,320
as to where all those case reports are

1665
01:11:02,870 --> 01:10:59,840
so we're going to go after

1666
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:02,880
you know after that for example and one

1667
01:11:04,950 --> 01:11:04,480
of the other things that we would like

1668
01:11:08,070 --> 01:11:04,960
to

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01:11:12,149 --> 01:11:08,080
hearing

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01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:12,159
just imagine even if the navy task force

1671
01:11:17,830 --> 01:11:15,040
and the report that congress then will

1672
01:11:21,430 --> 01:11:17,840
release to the public

1673
01:11:23,350 --> 01:11:21,440
and they have some form of disclosure

1674
01:11:25,510 --> 01:11:23,360
there is absolutely no talk about

1675
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:25,520
protection of possible

1676
01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:27,840
whistleblowers people that would now

1677
01:11:31,750 --> 01:11:29,280
like to come forward

1678
01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:31,760
people within the military for example

1679
01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:32,320
uh

1680
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:34,320
you know highly educated individuals

1681
01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:36,000
working in national laboratories and

1682
01:11:40,149 --> 01:11:37,199
with nasa

1683
01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:40,159
and you know boeing and lockheed and so

1684
01:11:44,070 --> 01:11:40,960
on

1685
01:11:46,709 --> 01:11:44,080
and it's not that icer or any

1686
01:11:47,430 --> 01:11:46,719
group would be able to provide that but

1687
01:11:51,350 --> 01:11:47,440
we

1688
01:11:53,830 --> 01:11:51,360
would push for that

1689
01:11:55,910 --> 01:11:53,840
that there needs to be representation of

1690
01:11:58,870 --> 01:11:55,920
possible witnesses on that behalf

1691
01:11:59,669 --> 01:11:58,880
and inserting the push and then coming

1692
01:12:02,390 --> 01:11:59,679
from

1693
01:12:03,750 --> 01:12:02,400
that many countries for congressional

1694
01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:03,760
hearings

1695
01:12:07,510 --> 01:12:06,960
that really have never taken place thus

1696
01:12:09,830 --> 01:12:07,520
far

1697
01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:09,840
the idea that congress has never

1698
01:12:13,990 --> 01:12:10,640
subpoenaed

1699
01:12:15,750 --> 01:12:14,000
a a ufo witness to ever testify under

1700
01:12:18,149 --> 01:12:15,760
oath

1701
01:12:20,070 --> 01:12:18,159
and to me that's almost unforgivable

1702
01:12:21,350 --> 01:12:20,080
it's it's very surprising when we start

1703
01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:21,360
to look at things like that

1704
01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:24,640
and i was wondering what

1705
01:12:28,470 --> 01:12:27,760
uh the senate intelligence committee was

1706
01:12:31,030 --> 01:12:28,480
going to do

1707
01:12:31,590 --> 01:12:31,040
and how they were going to approach this

1708
01:12:35,669 --> 01:12:31,600
um

1709
01:12:40,229 --> 01:12:35,679
let's speak hypothetically for a second

1710
01:12:42,550 --> 01:12:40,239
let's suppose or presuppose

1711
01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:42,560
that they actually get the report right

1712
01:12:46,950 --> 01:12:44,400
dni shows up

1713
01:12:48,950 --> 01:12:46,960
uh dod is there maybe some members of

1714
01:12:51,830 --> 01:12:48,960
the joint chiefs and this

1715
01:12:53,910 --> 01:12:51,840
you know and all the branches of the

1716
01:12:55,030 --> 01:12:53,920
military have been contacted and here's

1717
01:12:57,590 --> 01:12:55,040
the report

1718
01:12:59,750 --> 01:12:57,600
and they push this thing forward and

1719
01:13:02,630 --> 01:12:59,760
it's there for review

1720
01:13:04,229 --> 01:13:02,640
does the senate intelligence committee

1721
01:13:06,229 --> 01:13:04,239
at that point

1722
01:13:07,669 --> 01:13:06,239
do what they're supposed to do call

1723
01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:07,679
witnesses

1724
01:13:11,270 --> 01:13:09,600
right are they going to and let's say

1725
01:13:13,910 --> 01:13:11,280
that they do don

1726
01:13:15,110 --> 01:13:13,920
right david fravor's up there right alex

1727
01:13:17,590 --> 01:13:15,120
dietrich

1728
01:13:19,030 --> 01:13:17,600
uh very cool by the way and i'm glad

1729
01:13:22,470 --> 01:13:19,040
that she has come forward

1730
01:13:24,149 --> 01:13:22,480
luis luis elizabeth lou elizondo

1731
01:13:25,510 --> 01:13:24,159
right okay right that would be the

1732
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:25,520
obvious um

1733
01:13:29,030 --> 01:13:28,239
but would they do that and then let's

1734
01:13:33,430 --> 01:13:29,040
say they

1735
01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:33,440
do do they bring any civilians forward

1736
01:13:39,750 --> 01:13:36,800
do they bring travis walton right to

1737
01:13:42,149 --> 01:13:39,760
to capitol hill do they bring uh you

1738
01:13:44,470 --> 01:13:42,159
know everybody from rendelsham

1739
01:13:45,430 --> 01:13:44,480
do they bring that forward right right

1740
01:13:47,910 --> 01:13:45,440
you know and

1741
01:13:48,950 --> 01:13:47,920
parker from pascagoula bring calvin

1742
01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:48,960
parker

1743
01:13:54,630 --> 01:13:52,000
right and bring in other aspects to this

1744
01:13:57,430 --> 01:13:54,640
because it's not just a us navy

1745
01:13:59,030 --> 01:13:57,440
uh i mean if they're really trying to

1746
01:14:01,910 --> 01:13:59,040
get to the bottom of this

1747
01:14:02,630 --> 01:14:01,920
they should hear from from all sides you

1748
01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:02,640
know and

1749
01:14:05,669 --> 01:14:05,040
and from all countries if possible

1750
01:14:11,110 --> 01:14:05,679
that's right

1751
01:14:14,630 --> 01:14:11,120
not do that if you're truly interested

1752
01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:14,640
in in not only getting answers

1753
01:14:20,630 --> 01:14:18,320
uh for who and what but we need to push

1754
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:20,640
this one step further

1755
01:14:26,229 --> 01:14:23,840
it's not uh but let me finish

1756
01:14:28,229 --> 01:14:26,239
uh really quick because you're important

1757
01:14:32,310 --> 01:14:28,239
your opinion is so important

1758
01:14:36,590 --> 01:14:32,320
i feel that uh dni

1759
01:14:40,470 --> 01:14:36,600
and the dod are trying to make this an

1760
01:14:43,510 --> 01:14:40,480
adversarial situation i.e

1761
01:14:45,669 --> 01:14:43,520
uh russia and china and then that's

1762
01:14:48,790 --> 01:14:45,679
that's the angle that they're going at

1763
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:48,800
everybody wants to tiptoe around

1764
01:14:52,950 --> 01:14:51,840
ufos right everybody wants it outside of

1765
01:14:55,990 --> 01:14:52,960
our solar system

1766
01:15:00,310 --> 01:14:56,000
not made on this earth which

1767
01:15:02,470 --> 01:15:00,320
is the question that everybody is asking

1768
01:15:04,550 --> 01:15:02,480
except for where it needs to be

1769
01:15:05,750 --> 01:15:04,560
presented and i don't get that part of

1770
01:15:07,350 --> 01:15:05,760
it

1771
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:07,360
no no no i could not agree more and the

1772
01:15:11,830 --> 01:15:09,520
fact that we both have had

1773
01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:11,840
discussions with uh high-ranking

1774
01:15:16,229 --> 01:15:13,679
officials in the government

1775
01:15:18,550 --> 01:15:16,239
and they are more ignorant on this

1776
01:15:21,830 --> 01:15:18,560
subject than the media is

1777
01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:21,840
and if rubio and the others if they

1778
01:15:25,350 --> 01:15:22,880
truly have been

1779
01:15:27,110 --> 01:15:25,360
you know receiving briefings on a

1780
01:15:29,990 --> 01:15:27,120
regular basis

1781
01:15:31,030 --> 01:15:30,000
at least that puts places them in a

1782
01:15:33,430 --> 01:15:31,040
position

1783
01:15:34,550 --> 01:15:33,440
that when the navy finally presents its

1784
01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:34,560
report

1785
01:15:38,070 --> 01:15:36,560
they can judge whether they've been on

1786
01:15:40,550 --> 01:15:38,080
the same page all along

1787
01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:40,560
they will have at least a foundation to

1788
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:41,600
base a final

1789
01:15:46,950 --> 01:15:44,640
judgment on and if they then call

1790
01:15:49,189 --> 01:15:46,960
well we need to have hearings we need to

1791
01:15:52,950 --> 01:15:49,199
you know have witnesses testify

1792
01:15:54,390 --> 01:15:52,960
we need to look at this from

1793
01:15:56,229 --> 01:15:54,400
not only the position that we're dealing

1794
01:15:58,470 --> 01:15:56,239
with a national threat

1795
01:16:00,310 --> 01:15:58,480
but that we are dealing as far as with

1796
01:16:03,669 --> 01:16:00,320
the culture shock

1797
01:16:06,229 --> 01:16:03,679
that we have to be prepared

1798
01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:06,239
that no different than as they should

1799
01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:08,640
have been back in 1947

1800
01:16:11,830 --> 01:16:10,320
by announcing they had actually captured

1801
01:16:13,510 --> 01:16:11,840
a flying saucer

1802
01:16:15,270 --> 01:16:13,520
that they did not anticipate the

1803
01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:15,280
ramifications

1804
01:16:19,430 --> 01:16:17,760
and as a result i i couldn't agree more

1805
01:16:21,189 --> 01:16:19,440
they are tiptoeing around this and

1806
01:16:24,709 --> 01:16:21,199
acting like this is just

1807
01:16:26,470 --> 01:16:24,719
uh you know old news we've been there

1808
01:16:28,149 --> 01:16:26,480
and we're going to treat it again we're

1809
01:16:29,910 --> 01:16:28,159
going to brush it off because yes

1810
01:16:31,830 --> 01:16:29,920
we're investigating we're looking into

1811
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:31,840
it and have a once again be the extent

1812
01:16:35,189 --> 01:16:32,719
of it

1813
01:16:35,990 --> 01:16:35,199
but you're absolutely correct that

1814
01:16:39,910 --> 01:16:36,000
unless

1815
01:16:43,030 --> 01:16:39,920
an opportunity

1816
01:16:43,910 --> 01:16:43,040
to present their own cases regarding

1817
01:16:45,590 --> 01:16:43,920
this

1818
01:16:47,510 --> 01:16:45,600
it's going to be the same song and dance

1819
01:16:52,070 --> 01:16:47,520
i'm afraid well if

1820
01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:52,080
if if dni says well

1821
01:16:55,510 --> 01:16:54,880
it's not the russians it's not china and

1822
01:16:58,630 --> 01:16:55,520
it's not

1823
01:17:00,470 --> 01:16:58,640
us then the question needs to come from

1824
01:17:03,189 --> 01:17:00,480
the senate intelligence committee

1825
01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:03,199
straight up well then what are we

1826
01:17:08,070 --> 01:17:04,640
talking about here

1827
01:17:09,830 --> 01:17:08,080
are we talking about an extraterrestrial

1828
01:17:12,870 --> 01:17:09,840
civilization

1829
01:17:16,310 --> 01:17:12,880
right let's cross that line

1830
01:17:19,910 --> 01:17:16,320
let's discuss this now rationally

1831
01:17:23,270 --> 01:17:19,920
yes right because if there's no way

1832
01:17:26,630 --> 01:17:23,280
go ahead and and why haven't we

1833
01:17:30,149 --> 01:17:26,640
been briefed on this matter for all

1834
01:17:32,950 --> 01:17:30,159
these years and again why

1835
01:17:34,550 --> 01:17:32,960
have they been ignoring it for the past

1836
01:17:37,910 --> 01:17:34,560
50 60 years

1837
01:17:41,510 --> 01:17:37,920
all of us said now it becomes a threat

1838
01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:41,520
yes yeah yeah yeah yeah why has this

1839
01:17:46,229 --> 01:17:42,880
been covered up for

1840
01:17:47,430 --> 01:17:46,239
all this and for whose benefit and now

1841
01:17:50,870 --> 01:17:47,440
to plead ignorance

1842
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:50,880
after all this time again just imagine

1843
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:52,000
you or i anyone

1844
01:17:56,950 --> 01:17:54,000
just imagine and hear that the colbit

1845
01:17:59,189 --> 01:17:56,960
vaccinations are an example

1846
01:18:01,910 --> 01:17:59,199
imagine if these the vaccinations would

1847
01:18:04,790 --> 01:18:01,920
have taken over 70 years to develop

1848
01:18:05,750 --> 01:18:04,800
i'd want my money back and they've been

1849
01:18:08,149 --> 01:18:05,760
again investigating

1850
01:18:11,030 --> 01:18:08,159
the ufo phenomenon for all this time and

1851
01:18:15,270 --> 01:18:11,040
they still are told in the dark about it

1852
01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:15,280
right and now here's the deal

1853
01:18:21,189 --> 01:18:18,800
um there has been a few

1854
01:18:22,550 --> 01:18:21,199
groups that have formed in the past of

1855
01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:22,560
course we have night cap and

1856
01:18:28,950 --> 01:18:26,320
and and kufos and uh you

1857
01:18:29,350 --> 01:18:28,960
right right but but what is different

1858
01:18:32,790 --> 01:18:29,360
about

1859
01:18:36,310 --> 01:18:32,800
icer and their approach

1860
01:18:39,590 --> 01:18:36,320
that it is an actual coalition

1861
01:18:42,950 --> 01:18:39,600
of over 25 countries

1862
01:18:45,430 --> 01:18:42,960
the fact that we have representation in

1863
01:18:46,630 --> 01:18:45,440
russia throughout europe throughout

1864
01:18:50,310 --> 01:18:46,640
south america

1865
01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:50,320
through australia new zealand japan

1866
01:18:53,990 --> 01:18:53,120
canada mexico and the point being this

1867
01:18:56,950 --> 01:18:54,000
has never

1868
01:18:57,590 --> 01:18:56,960
happened before and i think that in

1869
01:19:00,630 --> 01:18:57,600
itself

1870
01:19:02,470 --> 01:19:00,640
is going to demonstrate to you know the

1871
01:19:05,270 --> 01:19:02,480
global media

1872
01:19:06,550 --> 01:19:05,280
that not only is this a global

1873
01:19:10,149 --> 01:19:06,560
phenomenon

1874
01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:10,159
but that we are all facing the same

1875
01:19:13,669 --> 01:19:12,640
conundrum that we are all facing as far

1876
01:19:17,110 --> 01:19:13,679
as this same

1877
01:19:19,030 --> 01:19:17,120
elusive phantom and the point being that

1878
01:19:21,430 --> 01:19:19,040
these other countries as we have had

1879
01:19:23,830 --> 01:19:21,440
discussions over the last three years

1880
01:19:24,550 --> 01:19:23,840
there has been this total reliance on

1881
01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:24,560
the

1882
01:19:28,470 --> 01:19:27,120
um you know american military that we

1883
01:19:30,870 --> 01:19:28,480
were in charge that

1884
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:30,880
we may possibly even had one in our

1885
01:19:34,470 --> 01:19:31,679
possession

1886
01:19:35,830 --> 01:19:34,480
that we if any country had answers it

1887
01:19:37,510 --> 01:19:35,840
was a classic

1888
01:19:39,669 --> 01:19:37,520
situation and that whenever we would

1889
01:19:41,990 --> 01:19:39,679
hear i would hear of a foreign case the

1890
01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:42,000
first question i would typically ask

1891
01:19:47,510 --> 01:19:45,440
were there american suits involved

1892
01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:47,520
and i don't care if it was west all

1893
01:19:51,590 --> 01:19:48,480
australia

1894
01:19:52,229 --> 01:19:51,600
or zimbabwe africa there were american

1895
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:52,239
suits there

1896
01:19:58,229 --> 01:19:55,760
why what placed us in the driver's seat

1897
01:20:00,229 --> 01:19:58,239
i personally am convinced is because we

1898
01:20:01,030 --> 01:20:00,239
captured one we got one we had we had

1899
01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:01,040
the wreckage

1900
01:20:05,110 --> 01:20:03,040
and it became a major bargaining chip

1901
01:20:06,629 --> 01:20:05,120
you know we're reversing the technology

1902
01:20:08,390 --> 01:20:06,639
we're gonna have a fleet of flying

1903
01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:08,400
saucers before you know it big

1904
01:20:12,950 --> 01:20:10,080
bargaining chip

1905
01:20:14,709 --> 01:20:12,960
and here we are all this time later and

1906
01:20:16,629 --> 01:20:14,719
either there has been this secret you

1907
01:20:19,350 --> 01:20:16,639
know technology all this time

1908
01:20:19,669 --> 01:20:19,360
that may you know possibly be announced

1909
01:20:23,910 --> 01:20:19,679
i

1910
01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:23,920
you know somehow connect the space uh

1911
01:20:27,510 --> 01:20:25,760
the space force

1912
01:20:29,430 --> 01:20:27,520
that they're going to announce something

1913
01:20:29,830 --> 01:20:29,440
in regards to that's why we created

1914
01:20:31,990 --> 01:20:29,840
space

1915
01:20:33,110 --> 01:20:32,000
force because we're you know we're

1916
01:20:35,669 --> 01:20:33,120
dealing with something

1917
01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:35,679
you know off the planet and we need to

1918
01:20:39,270 --> 01:20:36,400
find out

1919
01:20:39,750 --> 01:20:39,280
what it is well thanks for finally you

1920
01:20:43,590 --> 01:20:39,760
know

1921
01:20:43,910 --> 01:20:43,600
right waking up now are there going to

1922
01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:43,920
be

1923
01:20:49,030 --> 01:20:46,960
what you're not going to do is

1924
01:20:51,430 --> 01:20:49,040
investigate

1925
01:20:52,950 --> 01:20:51,440
right that's that's the one thing that

1926
01:20:55,990 --> 01:20:52,960
separates you from

1927
01:20:56,790 --> 01:20:56,000
from everybody else right there right

1928
01:20:58,870 --> 01:20:56,800
because we

1929
01:21:00,870 --> 01:20:58,880
see that uh just the public awareness

1930
01:21:03,189 --> 01:21:00,880
programs be established

1931
01:21:04,950 --> 01:21:03,199
and uh you know just the profound issue

1932
01:21:07,910 --> 01:21:04,960
of you know of contact

1933
01:21:08,550 --> 01:21:07,920
and its global implications that it

1934
01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:08,560
would be

1935
01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:12,480
the first time that that and we know

1936
01:21:15,830 --> 01:21:14,560
there were hearings already at the u.n

1937
01:21:18,229 --> 01:21:15,840
but that was just a matter

1938
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:18,239
of them inviting speakers such as

1939
01:21:22,229 --> 01:21:19,440
heineck and belay

1940
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:22,239
and dr david saunders and so on but this

1941
01:21:29,430 --> 01:21:23,360
would be

1942
01:21:31,270 --> 01:21:29,440
provided as far as a forum to testify

1943
01:21:33,669 --> 01:21:31,280
on their each their individual

1944
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:33,679
respective situation

1945
01:21:39,590 --> 01:21:36,960
well the brazilian air force for example

1946
01:21:42,310 --> 01:21:39,600
is talking to our representative and has

1947
01:21:43,110 --> 01:21:42,320
already demonstrated that they want to

1948
01:21:45,669 --> 01:21:43,120
cooperate

1949
01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:45,679
they i i think i would like to also

1950
01:21:49,990 --> 01:21:46,320
believe

1951
01:21:52,149 --> 01:21:50,000
that a number of people

1952
01:21:54,149 --> 01:21:52,159
that have essentially been following

1953
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:54,159
orders they've been doing maintaining

1954
01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:55,360
the status quo

1955
01:21:59,110 --> 01:21:58,239
that we will provide them with a

1956
01:22:02,550 --> 01:21:59,120
sympathetic

1957
01:22:05,510 --> 01:22:02,560
listening ear as to

1958
01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:05,520
how can we work together and power in

1959
01:22:10,310 --> 01:22:06,880
numbers and in this case

1960
01:22:13,270 --> 01:22:10,320
power in countries one of the most

1961
01:22:15,750 --> 01:22:13,280
daunting things i can think of

1962
01:22:16,470 --> 01:22:15,760
uh is piercing the veil of the united

1963
01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:16,480
nations

1964
01:22:22,629 --> 01:22:20,400
you know if i i have no idea

1965
01:22:24,550 --> 01:22:22,639
uh how you would approach that and what

1966
01:22:27,830 --> 01:22:24,560
kind of juice

1967
01:22:31,510 --> 01:22:27,840
you would have you would have to have

1968
01:22:34,709 --> 01:22:31,520
to to get recognition how do you

1969
01:22:37,669 --> 01:22:34,719
how do you go about that use

1970
01:22:37,990 --> 01:22:37,679
you secure representation how whether it

1971
01:22:41,270 --> 01:22:38,000
be

1972
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uh san marino or liechtenstein

1973
01:22:46,390 --> 01:22:44,080
or any other country they make emotion

1974
01:22:49,030 --> 01:22:46,400
and then at least it would come to it

1975
01:22:49,750 --> 01:22:49,040
but it is i i i wholeheartedly agree

1976
01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:49,760
with you jimmy

1977
01:22:56,070 --> 01:22:52,960
it's a long drawn-out process we

1978
01:22:57,669 --> 01:22:56,080
are willing to face that and we have

1979
01:23:00,790 --> 01:22:57,679
already taken the initial

1980
01:23:04,149 --> 01:23:00,800
steps and the first one being that once

1981
01:23:07,510 --> 01:23:04,159
we are 30 countries they at least

1982
01:23:08,629 --> 01:23:07,520
have to recognize us in that capacity

1983
01:23:11,510 --> 01:23:08,639
that's unesco

1984
01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:11,520
and beyond that then we would start the

1985
01:23:15,830 --> 01:23:12,880
the procedure

1986
01:23:16,070 --> 01:23:15,840
it could take years but we have to start

1987
01:23:22,390 --> 01:23:16,080
it

1988
01:23:24,950 --> 01:23:22,400
you just mentioned valet and heineck uh

1989
01:23:26,229 --> 01:23:24,960
you know when they did that lee spiegel

1990
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:26,239
right

1991
01:23:29,830 --> 01:23:28,080
that yes yes lee spiegel correct that

1992
01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:29,840
was grenada

1993
01:23:34,070 --> 01:23:31,600
right that wasn't the united kingdom

1994
01:23:35,750 --> 01:23:34,080
that wasn't spain or france or brazil or

1995
01:23:38,149 --> 01:23:35,760
the united states or russia or

1996
01:23:40,070 --> 01:23:38,159
china united states right right it was

1997
01:23:42,790 --> 01:23:40,080
grenada

1998
01:23:44,870 --> 01:23:42,800
you know and so you may be that's that's

1999
01:23:48,229 --> 01:23:44,880
an interesting approach

2000
01:23:49,030 --> 01:23:48,239
that you would go through uh another

2001
01:23:51,830 --> 01:23:49,040
country

2002
01:23:54,149 --> 01:23:51,840
that would be willing to sit down and

2003
01:23:56,390 --> 01:23:54,159
talk and then go and take this

2004
01:23:57,510 --> 01:23:56,400
uh to unesco and the united nations very

2005
01:23:59,830 --> 01:23:57,520
interesting approach

2006
01:24:03,750 --> 01:23:59,840
okay do you have it's now you said

2007
01:24:07,430 --> 01:24:06,310
yeah one more example sure and this was

2008
01:24:09,350 --> 01:24:07,440
something that we

2009
01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:09,360
you know we originally saw even with the

2010
01:24:13,270 --> 01:24:10,800
roswell investigation

2011
01:24:15,990 --> 01:24:13,280
the irony that we were hearing of

2012
01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:16,000
foreign sources and for example

2013
01:24:22,950 --> 01:24:19,199
when pravda the state-run newspaper

2014
01:24:26,229 --> 01:24:22,960
in russia released a report

2015
01:24:29,030 --> 01:24:26,239
around 1990 about roswell

2016
01:24:30,149 --> 01:24:29,040
that stalin did not believe the balloon

2017
01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:30,159
explanation

2018
01:24:34,629 --> 01:24:32,560
that the americans you know presented

2019
01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:34,639
right and that he was very concerned

2020
01:24:39,189 --> 01:24:35,760
that because it just

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01:24:41,430 --> 01:24:39,199
happened to take place just a couple

2022
01:24:43,030 --> 01:24:41,440
hours away from where the first atomic

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01:24:45,910 --> 01:24:43,040
bomb was detonated

2024
01:24:46,709 --> 01:24:45,920
that it was a continuation on that theme

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01:24:49,750 --> 01:24:46,719
so

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01:24:51,669 --> 01:24:49,760
he sent you know he you know he selected

2027
01:24:54,790 --> 01:24:51,679
specific spies to go

2028
01:24:55,990 --> 01:24:54,800
in and i want an answer i want to report

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01:24:59,030 --> 01:24:56,000
by the end of the year

2030
01:25:02,550 --> 01:24:59,040
well whatever that report was and

2031
01:25:06,149 --> 01:25:02,560
the the at least the wording

2032
01:25:08,550 --> 01:25:06,159
was such that what was in pravda

2033
01:25:11,430 --> 01:25:08,560
it described it that it was not of

2034
01:25:12,149 --> 01:25:11,440
american origin it did not appear to be

2035
01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:12,159
an immediate

2036
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:14,880
threat but they recommended a top

2037
01:25:19,830 --> 01:25:17,280
priority investigation by the academy

2038
01:25:21,510 --> 01:25:19,840
of science and then it listed all the

2039
01:25:25,350 --> 01:25:21,520
scientists all the russian scientists

2040
01:25:28,870 --> 01:25:25,360
assigned to present a full report

2041
01:25:31,110 --> 01:25:28,880
to joseph stalin and so i kept thinking

2042
01:25:32,470 --> 01:25:31,120
wouldn't that be the ultimate irony that

2043
01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:32,480
we would come up with

2044
01:25:36,310 --> 01:25:35,440
any type of documentation or proof that

2045
01:25:38,950 --> 01:25:36,320
roswell

2046
01:25:39,669 --> 01:25:38,960
was anything but american that it was of

2047
01:25:42,870 --> 01:25:39,679
anything

2048
01:25:46,149 --> 01:25:42,880
extraordinary

2049
01:25:49,350 --> 01:25:46,159
and to do it outside of america not

2050
01:25:50,030 --> 01:25:49,360
in not you know a betrayal or any type

2051
01:25:52,950 --> 01:25:50,040
of uh

2052
01:25:53,350 --> 01:25:52,960
unpatriotic act on my part but the point

2053
01:25:56,070 --> 01:25:53,360
being

2054
01:25:58,070 --> 01:25:56,080
hey it's our own government that keeps

2055
01:25:58,790 --> 01:25:58,080
slamming the door in our faces and i'm

2056
01:26:01,030 --> 01:25:58,800
sorry

2057
01:26:02,790 --> 01:26:01,040
i don't go through a door i go around it

2058
01:26:05,270 --> 01:26:02,800
and i'm gonna do whatever it takes

2059
01:26:07,510 --> 01:26:05,280
to come up with the answers that's not

2060
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:07,520
unpatriotic that means you're a citizen

2061
01:26:12,149 --> 01:26:09,040
of planet earth

2062
01:26:13,750 --> 01:26:12,159
that's how that means yes i'm cool i'm

2063
01:26:14,790 --> 01:26:13,760
cool with that demanding the truth

2064
01:26:17,590 --> 01:26:14,800
demanding the truth

2065
01:26:19,510 --> 01:26:17,600
right now um when we come back after the

2066
01:26:21,830 --> 01:26:19,520
break

2067
01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:21,840
one of the questions that must be on the

2068
01:26:25,350 --> 01:26:22,960
minds of

2069
01:26:26,550 --> 01:26:25,360
uh the audience and this is the way that

2070
01:26:28,870 --> 01:26:26,560
i always think

2071
01:26:31,430 --> 01:26:28,880
you know that black and white mindset

2072
01:26:33,910 --> 01:26:31,440
which is okay this is great

2073
01:26:34,870 --> 01:26:33,920
but who do you got right who's on the

2074
01:26:37,990 --> 01:26:34,880
team

2075
01:26:41,590 --> 01:26:38,000
right right this is a lot of work

2076
01:26:44,629 --> 01:26:41,600
uh to put together and you must have

2077
01:26:46,390 --> 01:26:44,639
a structure and you must have some names

2078
01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:46,400
that you can name drop

2079
01:26:50,629 --> 01:26:48,320
so i want to go through i want to go

2080
01:26:53,030 --> 01:26:50,639
through all of that next and

2081
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:53,040
the other part uh and i want to discuss

2082
01:26:56,950 --> 01:26:54,719
this after the break but we can talk uh

2083
01:27:00,550 --> 01:26:56,960
briefly about it now

2084
01:27:04,550 --> 01:27:00,560
none of us are getting any uh younger

2085
01:27:06,070 --> 01:27:04,560
and i'm hoping that in my lifetime

2086
01:27:07,910 --> 01:27:06,080
you and i were talking about this

2087
01:27:10,790 --> 01:27:07,920
subject earlier today

2088
01:27:12,070 --> 01:27:10,800
that i hope that in my lifetime in what

2089
01:27:15,110 --> 01:27:12,080
time that i have left

2090
01:27:15,430 --> 01:27:15,120
that i can start to get the answers that

2091
01:27:19,030 --> 01:27:15,440
i

2092
01:27:20,629 --> 01:27:19,040
well

2093
01:27:22,550 --> 01:27:20,639
do you think you're absolutely do you

2094
01:27:22,950 --> 01:27:22,560
think you're late in the fourth quarter

2095
01:27:25,990 --> 01:27:22,960
here

2096
01:27:29,510 --> 01:27:26,000
to to scoring a touchdown

2097
01:27:31,350 --> 01:27:29,520
well we certainly are as to uh roswell

2098
01:27:33,350 --> 01:27:31,360
as far as witnesses for example

2099
01:27:35,270 --> 01:27:33,360
we're on the one inch line right now the

2100
01:27:37,510 --> 01:27:35,280
undertaker has won

2101
01:27:40,229 --> 01:27:37,520
all that accumulated information that

2102
01:27:42,950 --> 01:27:40,239
has been taken to their graves

2103
01:27:44,709 --> 01:27:42,960
from witnesses we failed to you know get

2104
01:27:47,910 --> 01:27:44,719
statements from before they were gone

2105
01:27:51,110 --> 01:27:47,920
sure you know just the the um

2106
01:27:53,990 --> 01:27:51,120
just the level of finality

2107
01:27:55,110 --> 01:27:54,000
to death the idea that it's gone forever

2108
01:27:58,229 --> 01:27:55,120
gone forever

2109
01:28:00,149 --> 01:27:58,239
and so yes i think that's what this

2110
01:28:02,790 --> 01:28:00,159
provides us with an opportunity

2111
01:28:04,390 --> 01:28:02,800
but that's where we make the mistake of

2112
01:28:05,910 --> 01:28:04,400
just sitting back right now

2113
01:28:07,270 --> 01:28:05,920
twiddling our thumbs and thinking well

2114
01:28:07,830 --> 01:28:07,280
we're going to wait for them to once

2115
01:28:11,189 --> 01:28:07,840
again

2116
01:28:13,110 --> 01:28:11,199
present us with the truth and i'm sorry

2117
01:28:16,470 --> 01:28:13,120
their track record is dismal

2118
01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:16,480
right and so we feel we need to you know

2119
01:28:22,709 --> 01:28:19,920
turn the thumb screws to get them to act

2120
01:28:23,270 --> 01:28:22,719
on whatever report whatever they present

2121
01:28:25,110 --> 01:28:23,280
us

2122
01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:25,120
and i agree with you the best thing

2123
01:28:28,870 --> 01:28:26,880
would be okay

2124
01:28:30,229 --> 01:28:28,880
we want witnesses we want people to

2125
01:28:31,590 --> 01:28:30,239
testify on their own

2126
01:28:33,430 --> 01:28:31,600
and we're going to set up committee

2127
01:28:34,149 --> 01:28:33,440
hearings as far as as far as on capitol

2128
01:28:36,550 --> 01:28:34,159
hill

2129
01:28:38,149 --> 01:28:36,560
and we're going to at least provide

2130
01:28:41,189 --> 01:28:38,159
people with an opportunity

2131
01:28:43,510 --> 01:28:41,199
to present us with their best evidence

2132
01:28:45,510 --> 01:28:43,520
well what we can't do we can't take our

2133
01:28:47,990 --> 01:28:45,520
eye off the prize number one

2134
01:28:49,110 --> 01:28:48,000
we're very close to getting you know

2135
01:28:51,830 --> 01:28:49,120
pushing that ball

2136
01:28:53,990 --> 01:28:51,840
over the gold line we are right there

2137
01:28:56,550 --> 01:28:54,000
but what the man wants

2138
01:28:57,590 --> 01:28:56,560
is for us to be distracted you know to

2139
01:28:59,590 --> 01:28:57,600
get tired

2140
01:29:01,270 --> 01:28:59,600
to not get because they are not going to

2141
01:29:02,629 --> 01:29:01,280
do it on their own

2142
01:29:04,390 --> 01:29:02,639
they need pressure and they need

2143
01:29:07,750 --> 01:29:04,400
pressure from us and that pressure has

2144
01:29:10,950 --> 01:29:07,760
got to be unrelenting

2145
01:29:12,390 --> 01:29:10,960
totally totally and so uh i'm sure there

2146
01:29:14,149 --> 01:29:12,400
may be people who are listening tonight

2147
01:29:16,310 --> 01:29:14,159
and they're snickering oh they're

2148
01:29:17,990 --> 01:29:16,320
they're talking about another club you

2149
01:29:21,030 --> 01:29:18,000
know that type of thing right

2150
01:29:23,189 --> 01:29:21,040
no we're talking about a very proactive

2151
01:29:24,070 --> 01:29:23,199
and the point being that this is

2152
01:29:26,070 --> 01:29:24,080
unprecedented

2153
01:29:27,510 --> 01:29:26,080
that we have this many countries that

2154
01:29:29,669 --> 01:29:27,520
are now willing to say

2155
01:29:31,430 --> 01:29:29,679
let us finally put our money where our

2156
01:29:34,550 --> 01:29:31,440
mouth is and let's get

2157
01:29:35,990 --> 01:29:34,560
things moving in our direction we are

2158
01:29:37,910 --> 01:29:36,000
going to try to take charge

2159
01:29:39,990 --> 01:29:37,920
of our own destinies regarding this

2160
01:29:40,550 --> 01:29:40,000
subject and stop relying on official

2161
01:29:42,870 --> 01:29:40,560
dumb

2162
01:29:44,709 --> 01:29:42,880
to take us by the hand and tell us what

2163
01:29:47,830 --> 01:29:44,719
they think we want to know

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01:29:49,430 --> 01:29:47,840
you said official dumb that was good don

2165
01:29:51,590 --> 01:29:49,440
that was good you didn't even yes you

2166
01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:51,600
didn't even catch that i did

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01:29:56,709 --> 01:29:54,880
i'm glad you picked up don schmidt

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is our guest this is faded black i'm

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yours jimmy church stay with us we'll be

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you are listening to fate to black with

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hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

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jimmy church

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this is revolution the revolution will

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not be televised

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ciao

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight don schmidt

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live from

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roswell new mexico and uh

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this this announcement of of icer is a

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big deal and

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we're going to continue with this the

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structure of the group

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uh but before we do don um

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you could run for mayor of roswell you

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know that right

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uh in fact i know the mayor very well

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because

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we're always discussing

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not you know the notion that we're

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always looking for ways to

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you know draw more people in the roswell

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but it's like how can you help

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the museum how can you do more for us

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how can we just further educate

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the public you i think um you know i

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think you introduced me to the mayor of

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roswell

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i i believe yeah i i believe i believe i

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we did yes uh yeah it was a a breakfast

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yes and that would have been amir uh

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dennis kintai

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at that time yes that's right that's

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right he's now serving he's now serving

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his second uh

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term so man that one of the coolest

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he's former fbi and he actually was uh

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pretty hard-nosed honest at first and i

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think mainly because of his his

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background his training but uh soon we

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sat down with him

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and i i think he he noted how

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serious and how professional we were

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regarding the subject that

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he saw a lot more than just any type of

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circus carnival atmosphere

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attracting tourists yeah that

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roswell um i remember i went on

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uh the local radio station there uh one

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morning and

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and uh and so i said hello to everybody

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and i think earlier that week i was on

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uh i was on coast and i said okay city

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of roswell

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i'm coming to town right and then so um

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i did that interview and the next day

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after that i was uh rolling no

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no it was that afternoon so i was on the

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air that morning but i'm rolling up the

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street

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on uh uh one of those segways

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right and i'm going up main street and

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the crowds of people that are on both

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sides of the

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jimmy roswell loves you right yelling

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for

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i just thought man you know what a great

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city

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they they really appreciate and you on

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the float

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you could run for mayor you could run

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for mayor tomorrow

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and uh roswell just loves don schmidt so

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now um they reckon i'm saying they

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recognize

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man they they understand uh what's uh

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truly going on

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now back to icer um

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uh what i had said before the break and

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i mean this i'm not being cavalier

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uh the audience and myself we want to

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know you know uh who's the quarterback

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you've got to have uh you know you got

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to have some players on the team and

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you've got to be able to name drop

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who are some of the prominent members of

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icer

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okay well our president would be dr

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roberto pinotti

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from san marino probably one of the most

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famous ufologists throughout europe and

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certainly italy

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renowned as far as scientists who's been

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who's devoted

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his life to the study of ufos

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and uh and rightfully so that uh

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you know that we would have selected him

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as the president

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we have uh dr lacazar

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philippov who's a space astrophysicist

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and is with the bulgarian academy of

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science

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and in fact was involved with the

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training of even the bulgarian

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astronauts during as far as

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his term with her space program uh we

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have eamonn asbrow

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who's an astronomer in ireland with the

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seti

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project so these are

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you know three examples where in

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dr pinotti's case yes he's a renowned

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he's a respected ufologist

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whereas the others really have no ufo

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background whatsoever

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but they understand they understand life

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right they understand life in in the

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milky way

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and in astronomy in the universe

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and and chemistry and the physics side

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of this which is something that

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needs to be brought to the table

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precisely precisely

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because too often one becomes jaded

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and it's no different than so many of

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the ufo says you're preaching to the

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choir

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it was one of the reasons that when

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i was invited to actually present a

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paper

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at the then cycop committee for the

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scientific investigation of the

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paranormal

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the carl sagan isaac asimov arthur c

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clark

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organization at that time and

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i didn't hesitate because they were

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going to have an audience of you know

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hundreds of people that i could at least

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make an attempt to present my case i

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mean i realized i was going into a

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lion's

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den but if you survive

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then you've made progress because they

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didn't eat me alive they didn't destroy

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me they didn't you know

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chew me up and spit me out in fact uh

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the media could not have been more

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respectful who happened to be

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there and as a result it wasn't like i

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walked out scarred and bloody

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as much as i felt that our case was so

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good that i could take it to you know

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the most hard-nosed

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debunkers in the world and

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it would still stand on its own merit

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too many people in ufology they

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they seek to become celebrities and they

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think that that's all they need

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to present as far as our case no

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if if we haven't established enough of a

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ufo

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case in a court of law just as be

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you know testifying before congress then

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we've been kidding ourselves

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then we have been chasing ghosts are you

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guys

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going to make an attempt

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at olive branches and uniting

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the different ufo groups around the

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world and here in the united states

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yes and for this reason because

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as we even see now the dissension

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the detractors those that are predicting

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gloom and doom those that feel that

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they're going to be left

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on at the bus stop if there is any type

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of announcement

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those that are still trying to jump on

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the bus and act like yes

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we were on the right side all along it

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uh it just continues to demonstrate the

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level of pettiness

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and envy and jealousy i mean if you so

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much as write a book

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in the ufo field you're a trader because

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hey

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you're not starving like me you're

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trying to actually make a buck and pay

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for your research

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and and i for one i've tired of that

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long ago

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because sorry it's like the old adage a

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poor person is never going to help

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another poor person

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and a poor ufologist isn't going to get

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much done in research

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if they don't have some funding that's

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the way that it is

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and yeah and for me i i got to tell you

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i i bought every ufo book that i could

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find

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there that's just what i did and when

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something else was coming out

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that included yours right something else

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is coming out i was there

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um i got to a point at uh barnes and

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noble across the street from my house

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they didn't have anything left don i

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bought it all

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did

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of uh of of the information and there

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was another thing that i really

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appreciated

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um in in collecting books and reading

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them cover to cover

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is that i could fan them out in front of

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me

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and see the overlap of the information

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that was between them

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and i appreciated that where i could

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see the the confirmation of

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different ideas different theories

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different

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uh incidents right and they all

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started to overlap and i could see the

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consistency

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between all of this yes exactly which is

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a wonderful as far as analogy as

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to if we were to collectively

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you know work together to try to finally

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you know put pressure on that's why as

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far as

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the act of investigation okay what have

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we accumulated

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except hundreds of thousands of case

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reports

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over the last 75 years but then if we

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consider well who has had greater

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access to the information who has the

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technology who has the funding

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who possibly potentially has physical

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proof

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not i mean beyond photographic and gun

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camera footage and

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as the navy has presented in the last

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number of years

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we need to stop pointing up at the sky

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and start pointing to washington

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pointing to the pentagon and saying fess

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up

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you have the answers whatever they

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happen to be

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but if you want to plead ignorance then

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let's work together

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and finally determine what we're dealing

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with here now what about

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uh what about experiencers and abductees

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are you collecting data on that too as

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i i i feel that i've always been pretty

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much on the fence when it comes to

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abductees

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in that there's been so much

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contamination so many books so many

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personal accounts

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that even heinrich we used to talk about

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you could take 100 people in a room and

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just about everybody is read or seen or

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heard you know

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so within their subconscious and then

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with regression

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hypnotic you know regression you could

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01:45:22,550 --> 01:45:21,040
make most anybody believe they had such

2524
01:45:25,430 --> 01:45:22,560
an experience

2525
01:45:25,830 --> 01:45:25,440
the the problem is that the cases are

2526
01:45:28,950 --> 01:45:25,840
far

2527
01:45:31,990 --> 01:45:28,960
point

2528
01:45:33,470 --> 01:45:32,000
and as a result you know i require that

2529
01:45:37,030 --> 01:45:33,480
they are

2530
01:45:40,629 --> 01:45:37,040
multi-witnessed multi-participant

2531
01:45:40,950 --> 01:45:40,639
and as old as possible that's why the

2532
01:45:43,430 --> 01:45:40,960
late

2533
01:45:44,550 --> 01:45:43,440
50s early 60s and through that time

2534
01:45:46,550 --> 01:45:44,560
those would be

2535
01:45:48,550 --> 01:45:46,560
our best bet and that's one of the

2536
01:45:49,189 --> 01:45:48,560
reasons that like the betty barney hill

2537
01:45:52,070 --> 01:45:49,199
case

2538
01:45:53,430 --> 01:45:52,080
still stands as strong as it does

2539
01:45:55,030 --> 01:45:53,440
because there was nothing else to

2540
01:45:58,229 --> 01:45:55,040
influence it

2541
01:46:00,310 --> 01:45:58,239
the uh when

2542
01:46:02,229 --> 01:46:00,320
when i'm asked that question you know

2543
01:46:05,510 --> 01:46:02,239
about the big cases and

2544
01:46:07,510 --> 01:46:05,520
and what excites me um you know and some

2545
01:46:09,109 --> 01:46:07,520
of the obvious things you know to state

2546
01:46:12,550 --> 01:46:09,119
like you know like roswell

2547
01:46:15,590 --> 01:46:12,560
or or malmstrom or but

2548
01:46:18,950 --> 01:46:15,600
there are there are cases

2549
01:46:22,629 --> 01:46:18,960
that are so strong like travis walton

2550
01:46:26,390 --> 01:46:22,639
like calvin parker like randall shim

2551
01:46:28,470 --> 01:46:26,400
where these people are still alive um

2552
01:46:30,709 --> 01:46:28,480
there is more information coming in

2553
01:46:32,790 --> 01:46:30,719
today on calvin parker's case

2554
01:46:34,310 --> 01:46:32,800
than there was when the incident

2555
01:46:37,350 --> 01:46:34,320
actually happened

2556
01:46:39,669 --> 01:46:37,360
right witnesses yeah and i and i

2557
01:46:40,470 --> 01:46:39,679
i consider these modern cases even

2558
01:46:42,550 --> 01:46:40,480
though

2559
01:46:44,149 --> 01:46:42,560
you know calvin parker that's almost 50

2560
01:46:47,270 --> 01:46:44,159
years ago now 73

2561
01:46:49,910 --> 01:46:47,280
1973 correct yeah yeah and uh travis

2562
01:46:50,310 --> 01:46:49,920
travis would be 75 two years later yep

2563
01:46:53,510 --> 01:46:50,320
and

2564
01:46:56,870 --> 01:46:53,520
1980 man

2565
01:46:59,270 --> 01:46:56,880
yeah that was a lot 40 years ago over 40

2566
01:46:59,910 --> 01:46:59,280
years ago i know and i remember when it

2567
01:47:01,590 --> 01:46:59,920
happened

2568
01:47:03,030 --> 01:47:01,600
and i will never forget i was with

2569
01:47:05,109 --> 01:47:03,040
heinek at his home

2570
01:47:06,870 --> 01:47:05,119
and we he all of a sudden he starts

2571
01:47:09,510 --> 01:47:06,880
playing this tape to us

2572
01:47:11,830 --> 01:47:09,520
and we're listening so attentively and

2573
01:47:14,390 --> 01:47:11,840
he was the first one to get it

2574
01:47:16,070 --> 01:47:14,400
and it happened to be colonel charles

2575
01:47:17,990 --> 01:47:16,080
halt you know talking you know

2576
01:47:20,550 --> 01:47:18,000
in the woods that night as far as the

2577
01:47:22,070 --> 01:47:20,560
recorded as far as investigation

2578
01:47:23,910 --> 01:47:22,080
of what they were you know going into

2579
01:47:25,990 --> 01:47:23,920
the woods looking for

2580
01:47:26,950 --> 01:47:26,000
and the thought that it's now 41 years

2581
01:47:30,070 --> 01:47:26,960
ago

2582
01:47:32,229 --> 01:47:30,080
my god and so we we

2583
01:47:33,109 --> 01:47:32,239
have to believe that we've you know

2584
01:47:35,270 --> 01:47:33,119
moved the ball

2585
01:47:37,030 --> 01:47:35,280
down the field a little bit beyond that

2586
01:47:39,030 --> 01:47:37,040
point because otherwise

2587
01:47:42,470 --> 01:47:39,040
just as with roswell we're still

2588
01:47:45,430 --> 01:47:42,480
investigating 75 year old cases

2589
01:47:47,030 --> 01:47:45,440
because we haven't made any headway but

2590
01:47:49,430 --> 01:47:47,040
the difference with roswell

2591
01:47:50,629 --> 01:47:49,440
and i could lump renal shim into it just

2592
01:47:52,790 --> 01:47:50,639
because of the

2593
01:47:53,669 --> 01:47:52,800
wealth of eyewitnesses and the fact that

2594
01:47:55,270 --> 01:47:53,679
it happened

2595
01:47:57,350 --> 01:47:55,280
you know over a period of nights and in

2596
01:47:58,470 --> 01:47:57,360
fact it's turning out it happened even

2597
01:48:00,470 --> 01:47:58,480
an additional night

2598
01:48:02,229 --> 01:48:00,480
that is now coming out with additional

2599
01:48:03,990 --> 01:48:02,239
witnesses but with roswell you're

2600
01:48:05,990 --> 01:48:04,000
talking about hardware you're talking

2601
01:48:08,149 --> 01:48:06,000
about nuts and bolts you're talking once

2602
01:48:10,070 --> 01:48:08,159
again not something fleeting through the

2603
01:48:11,910 --> 01:48:10,080
sky that now you see it now you don't

2604
01:48:14,310 --> 01:48:11,920
but you're talking about something that

2605
01:48:15,430 --> 01:48:14,320
the government has been sitting on all

2606
01:48:17,830 --> 01:48:15,440
this time

2607
01:48:18,550 --> 01:48:17,840
and all they have to do is acknowledge

2608
01:48:20,950 --> 01:48:18,560
hey

2609
01:48:22,310 --> 01:48:20,960
we've got one but we still can't find

2610
01:48:24,790 --> 01:48:22,320
the on button

2611
01:48:25,590 --> 01:48:24,800
have you read you know speaking of

2612
01:48:27,910 --> 01:48:25,600
roswell

2613
01:48:30,390 --> 01:48:27,920
have you read uh jacques impala's new

2614
01:48:32,950 --> 01:48:30,400
book trinity

2615
01:48:33,510 --> 01:48:32,960
no but i'm fully aware of the case and

2616
01:48:37,270 --> 01:48:33,520
and

2617
01:48:40,310 --> 01:48:37,280
interviewed the witness

2618
01:48:43,350 --> 01:48:40,320
remy baca

2619
01:48:45,750 --> 01:48:43,360
over 25 years ago and

2620
01:48:48,149 --> 01:48:45,760
unfortunately we walked away from it

2621
01:48:50,709 --> 01:48:48,159
because he presented an

2622
01:48:52,229 --> 01:48:50,719
entirely different case he claimed that

2623
01:48:55,830 --> 01:48:52,239
it happened out on the plains of san

2624
01:48:59,990 --> 01:48:55,840
augustine and that it was 1947

2625
01:49:02,790 --> 01:49:00,000
and then when we received photographs

2626
01:49:04,070 --> 01:49:02,800
of the to us what was immediately

2627
01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:04,080
identified

2628
01:49:09,430 --> 01:49:07,440
as the rudder flange of a windmill

2629
01:49:11,109 --> 01:49:09,440
and claiming that it was an artifact

2630
01:49:15,030 --> 01:49:11,119
from the crash and that type of thing

2631
01:49:16,229 --> 01:49:15,040
and now it's 1947 and san antonio new

2632
01:49:19,830 --> 01:49:16,239
mexico

2633
01:49:23,109 --> 01:49:19,840
and so um again we had talked to him

2634
01:49:25,990 --> 01:49:23,119
25 years ago and

2635
01:49:27,109 --> 01:49:26,000
we dismissed it well or the

2636
01:49:30,790 --> 01:49:27,119
inconsistencies

2637
01:49:34,310 --> 01:49:30,800
yeah and uh and and and many

2638
01:49:36,310 --> 01:49:34,320
did but uh jacques research

2639
01:49:38,470 --> 01:49:36,320
and you know they've interviewed you

2640
01:49:41,589 --> 01:49:38,480
know three witnesses now

2641
01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:41,599
um the

2642
01:49:45,669 --> 01:49:44,560
i i don't think that and i'm sure that

2643
01:49:48,470 --> 01:49:45,679
you agree with me

2644
01:49:49,350 --> 01:49:48,480
i don't think jack got involved he was

2645
01:49:52,390 --> 01:49:49,360
doing his own

2646
01:49:55,350 --> 01:49:52,400
investigation into this uh and

2647
01:49:56,870 --> 01:49:55,360
and paula was doing hers uh

2648
01:49:59,750 --> 01:49:56,880
independently

2649
01:50:01,430 --> 01:49:59,760
um and and for jacques i know jacques

2650
01:50:04,629 --> 01:50:01,440
well enough

2651
01:50:07,589 --> 01:50:04,639
uh to say he's not going to

2652
01:50:08,229 --> 01:50:07,599
get his hands dirty and and present

2653
01:50:11,589 --> 01:50:08,239
something

2654
01:50:13,589 --> 01:50:11,599
unless he was pretty confident about it

2655
01:50:16,229 --> 01:50:13,599
and i think that where they are today

2656
01:50:17,510 --> 01:50:16,239
the book is a good read i i strongly

2657
01:50:20,950 --> 01:50:17,520
suggest

2658
01:50:23,109 --> 01:50:20,960
that you check it out um but

2659
01:50:25,270 --> 01:50:23,119
i i would think that going back to these

2660
01:50:27,990 --> 01:50:25,280
old cases to your point

2661
01:50:29,350 --> 01:50:28,000
that we didn't think that we could go

2662
01:50:31,830 --> 01:50:29,360
any further

2663
01:50:33,189 --> 01:50:31,840
with the past but now we've got a case

2664
01:50:36,470 --> 01:50:33,199
from 1945

2665
01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:36,480
two years prior to roswell right after

2666
01:50:41,189 --> 01:50:40,480
uh the trinity test um that it appears

2667
01:50:44,310 --> 01:50:41,199
that

2668
01:50:47,270 --> 01:50:44,320
there may have been something there

2669
01:50:49,350 --> 01:50:47,280
i have to also cite you know another

2670
01:50:52,070 --> 01:50:49,360
inconsistency that

2671
01:50:53,270 --> 01:50:52,080
certainly if the military in that case

2672
01:50:55,990 --> 01:50:53,280
the army

2673
01:50:57,589 --> 01:50:56,000
had any prior knowledge to some other

2674
01:50:58,790 --> 01:50:57,599
experience and the idea that this would

2675
01:51:02,470 --> 01:50:58,800
have happened just

2676
01:51:06,709 --> 01:51:02,480
a couple hours west of the roswell

2677
01:51:09,910 --> 01:51:06,719
incident that the personnel at roswell

2678
01:51:12,310 --> 01:51:09,920
when the rancher comes into town

2679
01:51:13,830 --> 01:51:12,320
and you know presents all this wreckage

2680
01:51:17,189 --> 01:51:13,840
and they behaved

2681
01:51:18,310 --> 01:51:17,199
as though this was uh you know some new

2682
01:51:20,229 --> 01:51:18,320
event that they had

2683
01:51:22,149 --> 01:51:20,239
it wasn't a case of where oh my god

2684
01:51:25,669 --> 01:51:22,159
another one

2685
01:51:28,870 --> 01:51:25,679
and uh that their behavior again

2686
01:51:31,990 --> 01:51:28,880
they acted in totally as if this was

2687
01:51:34,070 --> 01:51:32,000
a new experience unprecedented and so i

2688
01:51:36,149 --> 01:51:34,080
have a problem with that but as i said

2689
01:51:38,470 --> 01:51:36,159
the fact that i had originally i had

2690
01:51:41,589 --> 01:51:38,480
given a talk in ventura california

2691
01:51:43,750 --> 01:51:41,599
and i was introduced to uh he said

2692
01:51:45,669 --> 01:51:43,760
he called i i may have misheard his

2693
01:51:46,149 --> 01:51:45,679
first name but it sounded like ray baca

2694
01:51:48,550 --> 01:51:46,159
and then it

2695
01:51:49,669 --> 01:51:48,560
turned out it was remy baca okay but

2696
01:51:51,589 --> 01:51:49,679
that he

2697
01:51:53,830 --> 01:51:51,599
they took me aside with him and he

2698
01:51:55,270 --> 01:51:53,840
described not that it happened in san

2699
01:51:56,950 --> 01:51:55,280
antonio but that it happened on the

2700
01:52:01,350 --> 01:51:56,960
plains of san augustine

2701
01:52:04,390 --> 01:52:01,360
another hour west and not 1945 but 1947

2702
01:52:07,589 --> 01:52:04,400
and then after he tried to convince us

2703
01:52:08,629 --> 01:52:07,599
with photographs of this flange

2704
01:52:10,870 --> 01:52:08,639
i mean i don't know if you've seen

2705
01:52:13,430 --> 01:52:10,880
pictures of it but no i have i have

2706
01:52:14,550 --> 01:52:13,440
and and and jack this is what jacques

2707
01:52:16,950 --> 01:52:14,560
said

2708
01:52:17,589 --> 01:52:16,960
uh on this show a couple of weeks ago

2709
01:52:21,030 --> 01:52:17,599
that that

2710
01:52:23,109 --> 01:52:21,040
that piece was

2711
01:52:24,229 --> 01:52:23,119
uh that's man-made that's from earth it

2712
01:52:26,149 --> 01:52:24,239
wasn't from the craft

2713
01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:26,159
yes yes hundred percent hundred percent

2714
01:52:28,950 --> 01:52:27,520
right and yet

2715
01:52:30,470 --> 01:52:28,960
that's the two and they're not even

2716
01:52:32,070 --> 01:52:30,480
brothers but that they were presenting

2717
01:52:35,430 --> 01:52:32,080
it as being from the crash

2718
01:52:38,790 --> 01:52:35,440
well he this is what jacques said

2719
01:52:41,750 --> 01:52:38,800
um in in the transcripts of

2720
01:52:42,550 --> 01:52:41,760
the translations of the interviews that

2721
01:52:47,589 --> 01:52:42,560
this was

2722
01:52:51,109 --> 01:52:47,599
used to uh move the craft

2723
01:52:53,109 --> 01:52:51,119
okay so that you know possibly welded

2724
01:52:54,470 --> 01:52:53,119
onto the craft so they could hoist it up

2725
01:52:56,470 --> 01:52:54,480
onto

2726
01:52:58,709 --> 01:52:56,480
the back of the flatbed and that was

2727
01:53:01,270 --> 01:52:58,719
kind of where my mind went with that

2728
01:53:02,629 --> 01:53:01,280
went with it when when jacques was

2729
01:53:03,990 --> 01:53:02,639
telling me i don't think anybody is

2730
01:53:06,790 --> 01:53:04,000
trying to say that uh

2731
01:53:08,229 --> 01:53:06,800
certainly today that that is you know

2732
01:53:10,870 --> 01:53:08,239
from off world

2733
01:53:12,149 --> 01:53:10,880
that it uh well it was but but it was

2734
01:53:15,189 --> 01:53:12,159
one of the reasons

2735
01:53:17,589 --> 01:53:15,199
that the piece was forwarded to phyllis

2736
01:53:21,030 --> 01:53:17,599
button sure as far as in ohio

2737
01:53:23,589 --> 01:53:21,040
to have their lab do a actual analysis

2738
01:53:25,510 --> 01:53:23,599
and testing as to whether it was

2739
01:53:27,750 --> 01:53:25,520
terrestrial or not

2740
01:53:29,589 --> 01:53:27,760
so i hardly believe that they would have

2741
01:53:32,790 --> 01:53:29,599
had it analyzed and tested

2742
01:53:36,470 --> 01:53:32,800
if they weren't making such a claim so i

2743
01:53:38,870 --> 01:53:36,480
i i'll give it another look i will

2744
01:53:39,669 --> 01:53:38,880
you know especially respect the fact as

2745
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:39,679
i do

2746
01:53:42,870 --> 01:53:41,840
certainly above most others jacques

2747
01:53:45,430 --> 01:53:42,880
involvement

2748
01:53:46,310 --> 01:53:45,440
though it's a major curiosity within the

2749
01:53:49,510 --> 01:53:46,320
field

2750
01:53:50,149 --> 01:53:49,520
for someone who has demonstrated zero

2751
01:53:53,350 --> 01:53:50,159
interest

2752
01:53:55,270 --> 01:53:53,360
in crash retrievals as our you know dear

2753
01:53:57,990 --> 01:53:55,280
departed friend len stringfield

2754
01:53:59,350 --> 01:53:58,000
for having opened you know that very

2755
01:54:02,070 --> 01:53:59,360
possibility

2756
01:54:02,870 --> 01:54:02,080
already back in the late 70s about the

2757
01:54:05,669 --> 01:54:02,880
entire

2758
01:54:07,189 --> 01:54:05,679
crash retrieval situation and multiple

2759
01:54:10,629 --> 01:54:07,199
stories at that time

2760
01:54:12,950 --> 01:54:10,639
uh jacques never batted and i and

2761
01:54:15,350 --> 01:54:12,960
i it wasn't a case of where he just

2762
01:54:17,589 --> 01:54:15,360
dismissed it outright as much as

2763
01:54:18,790 --> 01:54:17,599
maybe well you guys are working on it

2764
01:54:22,390 --> 01:54:18,800
you come up with something

2765
01:54:26,470 --> 01:54:22,400
let me know yeah he had said

2766
01:54:28,310 --> 01:54:26,480
uh uh jacques said on on this program it

2767
01:54:31,430 --> 01:54:28,320
was about three years ago

2768
01:54:33,189 --> 01:54:31,440
he said uh it was just in passing

2769
01:54:35,109 --> 01:54:33,199
don right and we're talking just like

2770
01:54:38,070 --> 01:54:35,119
you and i are talking now

2771
01:54:39,750 --> 01:54:38,080
and he says well you know uh there have

2772
01:54:42,550 --> 01:54:39,760
been crash retrievals and

2773
01:54:43,589 --> 01:54:42,560
and and we have uh uh stuff in our

2774
01:54:46,629 --> 01:54:43,599
possession

2775
01:54:47,430 --> 01:54:46,639
and i kept talking and and and it blew

2776
01:54:50,550 --> 01:54:47,440
past me

2777
01:54:53,589 --> 01:54:50,560
don right i didn't stop on that

2778
01:54:55,669 --> 01:54:53,599
and i remember after the show i

2779
01:54:58,790 --> 01:54:55,679
i was thinking to myself and i said to

2780
01:55:02,229 --> 01:54:58,800
the audience did jack valet

2781
01:55:04,070 --> 01:55:02,239
just say that we are in possession of a

2782
01:55:08,390 --> 01:55:04,080
crashed flying saucer

2783
01:55:11,030 --> 01:55:08,400
as fact right so anyway this became

2784
01:55:12,149 --> 01:55:11,040
uh it was almost like urban legend right

2785
01:55:14,310 --> 01:55:12,159
this statement that

2786
01:55:16,629 --> 01:55:14,320
jacques had made on fade to black and i

2787
01:55:19,430 --> 01:55:16,639
kept going back to that so last week

2788
01:55:21,030 --> 01:55:19,440
here it is three years later jacques on

2789
01:55:23,669 --> 01:55:21,040
the show and i said chuck

2790
01:55:25,030 --> 01:55:23,679
when you said you know three years ago

2791
01:55:27,430 --> 01:55:25,040
on this program

2792
01:55:28,629 --> 01:55:27,440
that we were in possession of crash

2793
01:55:32,550 --> 01:55:28,639
flying saucers

2794
01:55:36,070 --> 01:55:32,560
and was it this trinity case

2795
01:55:39,189 --> 01:55:36,080
that you were referring to then and he

2796
01:55:43,270 --> 01:55:39,199
said right yes now i have i have

2797
01:55:46,390 --> 01:55:43,280
interviewed him uh many times

2798
01:55:50,790 --> 01:55:46,400
and and after that uh conversation don

2799
01:55:52,470 --> 01:55:50,800
and um he never went back to that point

2800
01:55:54,950 --> 01:55:52,480
and he never mentioned trinity

2801
01:55:55,589 --> 01:55:54,960
and didn't talk about the investigation

2802
01:55:59,270 --> 01:55:55,599
he kept

2803
01:56:00,709 --> 01:55:59,280
everything quiet and i i pressed him on

2804
01:56:02,709 --> 01:56:00,719
all kinds of things you know what are

2805
01:56:05,109 --> 01:56:02,719
you working on what's the secret stuff

2806
01:56:05,750 --> 01:56:05,119
jacques you know help a brother out

2807
01:56:08,790 --> 01:56:05,760
right

2808
01:56:10,310 --> 01:56:08,800
and he never he kept the investigation

2809
01:56:13,589 --> 01:56:10,320
quiet

2810
01:56:15,669 --> 01:56:13,599
and very reminiscent of jaylen heineck

2811
01:56:17,990 --> 01:56:15,679
i'll give you a quick example that's why

2812
01:56:20,070 --> 01:56:18,000
if not for the fact that he told you it

2813
01:56:22,550 --> 01:56:20,080
was about trinity

2814
01:56:25,109 --> 01:56:22,560
that i would then suggest that maybe it

2815
01:56:27,830 --> 01:56:25,119
was indeed his close colleague

2816
01:56:29,830 --> 01:56:27,840
his co-author messenger you know as far

2817
01:56:33,270 --> 01:56:29,840
as challenge the science

2818
01:56:34,470 --> 01:56:33,280
um jay on highly heinek now i'll tell

2819
01:56:37,910 --> 01:56:34,480
you the story that when

2820
01:56:40,709 --> 01:56:37,920
heinick's book ufo experience

2821
01:56:43,430 --> 01:56:40,719
heineken was receiving an award an

2822
01:56:46,470 --> 01:56:43,440
author's award in ohio

2823
01:56:49,430 --> 01:56:46,480
for the book you know like uh

2824
01:56:51,109 --> 01:56:49,440
you know best book written by an author

2825
01:56:52,629 --> 01:56:51,119
in the state of ohio at that time

2826
01:56:54,149 --> 01:56:52,639
and he was there with his secretary

2827
01:56:56,390 --> 01:56:54,159
jenny zeidman

2828
01:56:57,589 --> 01:56:56,400
who just passed away uh a couple of

2829
01:56:59,750 --> 01:56:57,599
years ago

2830
01:57:01,350 --> 01:56:59,760
who was uh also on a board of directors

2831
01:57:04,070 --> 01:57:01,360
at kufos and just a

2832
01:57:06,310 --> 01:57:04,080
wonderful researcher the whole as far as

2833
01:57:07,510 --> 01:57:06,320
coin helicopter case i mean she owned

2834
01:57:09,750 --> 01:57:07,520
that case and did a

2835
01:57:11,510 --> 01:57:09,760
masterful job on it and they're sitting

2836
01:57:14,790 --> 01:57:11,520
there at the table

2837
01:57:18,550 --> 01:57:14,800
and all at once allen dr heineck

2838
01:57:22,950 --> 01:57:18,560
slides over a piece of paper to jenny

2839
01:57:29,109 --> 01:57:26,390
we got a crash saucer

2840
01:57:30,070 --> 01:57:29,119
and jenny i mean because here's ellen

2841
01:57:32,629 --> 01:57:30,080
heineck who has

2842
01:57:34,470 --> 01:57:32,639
never brought up this subject before she

2843
01:57:35,270 --> 01:57:34,480
pulls out a piece of paper from a person

2844
01:57:39,830 --> 01:57:35,280
she

2845
01:57:43,350 --> 01:57:39,840
told you this

2846
01:57:47,030 --> 01:57:43,360
and alan writes below her notation

2847
01:57:48,870 --> 01:57:47,040
the air force really and just at that

2848
01:57:51,030 --> 01:57:48,880
moment just at that moment

2849
01:57:52,709 --> 01:57:51,040
he's called up you know to the bs as far

2850
01:57:55,430 --> 01:57:52,719
as to receive his award

2851
01:57:56,149 --> 01:57:55,440
he comes back and jenny you know it's

2852
01:57:58,629 --> 01:57:56,159
like okay

2853
01:57:59,750 --> 01:57:58,639
what else what else and then alan slides

2854
01:58:01,990 --> 01:57:59,760
a note back

2855
01:58:04,830 --> 01:58:02,000
don't ever ask me again don't harass me

2856
01:58:07,350 --> 01:58:04,840
i never i never wrote that

2857
01:58:08,550 --> 01:58:07,360
right yeah yeah yeah yeah and and then

2858
01:58:11,990 --> 01:58:08,560
tear up the note

2859
01:58:14,709 --> 01:58:12,000
uh so i i can see that jacques

2860
01:58:16,390 --> 01:58:14,719
that that alan heineck would have at the

2861
01:58:19,510 --> 01:58:16,400
one person he would have told about that

2862
01:58:21,270 --> 01:58:19,520
beyond his secretary jenny jenny zeidman

2863
01:58:23,669 --> 01:58:21,280
he would have told jacques he would have

2864
01:58:24,550 --> 01:58:23,679
told jacques and maybe that lit a fire

2865
01:58:27,030 --> 01:58:24,560
and he was just

2866
01:58:27,750 --> 01:58:27,040
waiting for that one opportunity and you

2867
01:58:30,550 --> 01:58:27,760
know jimmy

2868
01:58:33,350 --> 01:58:30,560
for for many years we've had people even

2869
01:58:35,589 --> 01:58:33,360
elite stan freeman our dear friend

2870
01:58:37,510 --> 01:58:35,599
that at a certain point he finally said

2871
01:58:38,870 --> 01:58:37,520
i'm going to leave you guys to solve

2872
01:58:39,750 --> 01:58:38,880
roswell i'm going to leave you guys to

2873
01:58:41,350 --> 01:58:39,760
finish it

2874
01:58:44,229 --> 01:58:41,360
i'm going to i'm going to pass down the

2875
01:58:45,030 --> 01:58:44,239
gauntlet because i'm getting older i'm

2876
01:58:47,030 --> 01:58:45,040
slowing down

2877
01:58:49,109 --> 01:58:47,040
i just don't have the energy the stamina

2878
01:58:49,830 --> 01:58:49,119
longer and you guys have demonstrated

2879
01:58:52,149 --> 01:58:49,840
that you're

2880
01:58:53,669 --> 01:58:52,159
right on it and that jacques may have

2881
01:58:55,030 --> 01:58:53,679
felt all this time well

2882
01:58:56,709 --> 01:58:55,040
you know i don't need to get involved

2883
01:58:57,270 --> 01:58:56,719
with roswell i don't either get involved

2884
01:59:06,149 --> 01:58:57,280
in

2885
01:59:08,790 --> 01:59:06,159
opportunity and i will never fault

2886
01:59:11,030 --> 01:59:08,800
anyone for going to the scene of the

2887
01:59:14,470 --> 01:59:11,040
crime and trying to determine

2888
01:59:16,310 --> 01:59:14,480
reality or fiction i was sitting

2889
01:59:19,350 --> 01:59:16,320
proactive

2890
01:59:20,149 --> 01:59:19,360
i was sitting with uh stanton uh one

2891
01:59:23,510 --> 01:59:20,159
afternoon

2892
01:59:25,109 --> 01:59:23,520
uh we were alone i go so stanton

2893
01:59:26,629 --> 01:59:25,119
and i do this all the time i've done it

2894
01:59:28,950 --> 01:59:26,639
with you stan

2895
01:59:31,189 --> 01:59:28,960
what's the secret man what's the one

2896
01:59:32,709 --> 01:59:31,199
case what's the one

2897
01:59:34,870 --> 01:59:32,719
and he goes come on jimmy it's right in

2898
01:59:38,390 --> 01:59:34,880
front of you roswell

2899
01:59:41,430 --> 01:59:38,400
right and and you know how

2900
01:59:44,790 --> 01:59:41,440
it's it's it's roswell you know that

2901
01:59:47,510 --> 01:59:44,800
that stanton that stan wavetown and

2902
01:59:49,510 --> 01:59:47,520
and that was that was his gift to me you

2903
01:59:52,310 --> 01:59:49,520
know don't let this go man

2904
01:59:54,070 --> 01:59:52,320
the the case is roswell everything else

2905
01:59:56,310 --> 01:59:54,080
is out there but

2906
01:59:57,350 --> 01:59:56,320
here here's here's here's another fly in

2907
01:59:59,350 --> 01:59:57,360
the ointment

2908
02:00:01,510 --> 01:59:59,360
just last year on father's day so it's

2909
02:00:03,669 --> 02:00:01,520
going to be about a year ago

2910
02:00:05,430 --> 02:00:03,679
a little over a year ago and donald

2911
02:00:07,830 --> 02:00:05,440
trump jr does his annual

2912
02:00:10,229 --> 02:00:07,840
father's day interview with his dad and

2913
02:00:13,430 --> 02:00:10,239
what's the very last question

2914
02:00:15,669 --> 02:00:13,440
dad are you going to open the files on

2915
02:00:17,830 --> 02:00:15,679
roswell

2916
02:00:19,430 --> 02:00:17,840
you know not you know bring out pieces

2917
02:00:20,629 --> 02:00:19,440
of a weather balloon or a mogul or

2918
02:00:22,310 --> 02:00:20,639
anything else no when are you going to

2919
02:00:25,109 --> 02:00:22,320
open the files

2920
02:00:27,030 --> 02:00:25,119
and for his father to without you know a

2921
02:00:29,350 --> 02:00:27,040
snicker or a smirk

2922
02:00:31,109 --> 02:00:29,360
you know making that comment you know

2923
02:00:33,990 --> 02:00:31,119
i'm asked that question

2924
02:00:36,070 --> 02:00:34,000
just about more than anything else and

2925
02:00:38,550 --> 02:00:36,080
you know who else made that reply

2926
02:00:39,430 --> 02:00:38,560
gave that same response president bill

2927
02:00:41,030 --> 02:00:39,440
clinton

2928
02:00:43,270 --> 02:00:41,040
yes he did that he was asked about

2929
02:00:46,070 --> 02:00:43,280
roswell more than anything else

2930
02:00:46,790 --> 02:00:46,080
and then trump adds you know millions of

2931
02:00:49,830 --> 02:00:46,800
people go

2932
02:00:51,350 --> 02:00:49,840
there because they want to be someplace

2933
02:00:53,910 --> 02:00:51,360
important

2934
02:00:54,790 --> 02:00:53,920
well i could hardly you know believe

2935
02:00:58,550 --> 02:00:54,800
that

2936
02:01:01,350 --> 02:00:58,560
a balloon crash is somewhere important

2937
02:01:03,350 --> 02:01:01,360
and so if he painted you know again he

2938
02:01:04,790 --> 02:01:03,360
created that illusion that they're still

2939
02:01:07,189 --> 02:01:04,800
up there there there's no

2940
02:01:08,229 --> 02:01:07,199
truth that is being withheld and then

2941
02:01:10,310 --> 02:01:08,239
when don jr

2942
02:01:11,910 --> 02:01:10,320
you know again well are you going to

2943
02:01:13,270 --> 02:01:11,920
open the files and he's

2944
02:01:15,270 --> 02:01:13,280
well you know what he said he said i'm

2945
02:01:18,149 --> 02:01:15,280
gonna need to look into it

2946
02:01:20,229 --> 02:01:18,159
so in other words there is still

2947
02:01:23,030 --> 02:01:20,239
information being withheld

2948
02:01:23,669 --> 02:01:23,040
and as long as that's the case i'm just

2949
02:01:26,390 --> 02:01:23,679
going to pack

2950
02:01:27,990 --> 02:01:26,400
up and go well mobile sounds good to me

2951
02:01:29,350 --> 02:01:28,000
that's fine with me i'm just going to

2952
02:01:30,790 --> 02:01:29,360
believe again the government

2953
02:01:33,669 --> 02:01:30,800
or believe the air force who's been

2954
02:01:36,950 --> 02:01:33,679
lying about this for all these years

2955
02:01:39,270 --> 02:01:36,960
so it's good enough good enough

2956
02:01:40,790 --> 02:01:39,280
let's take our break yeah that's right

2957
02:01:42,790 --> 02:01:40,800
let's take our break right here this is

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fade to black i'm your host jimmy church

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tonight live from roswell

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donald raymond schmidt more with don

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after this short break i'm real jimmy

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

3068
02:06:47,189 --> 02:06:43,280
jimmy church

3069
02:06:49,420 --> 02:06:47,199
now our guest tonight is don smith

3070
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don't you i said

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[Laughter]

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02:06:56,629 --> 02:06:54,800
just change your last name man that's

3073
02:06:58,790 --> 02:06:56,639
that's how they pronounce it in england

3074
02:07:01,030 --> 02:06:58,800
so you're fine

3075
02:07:01,990 --> 02:07:01,040
oh but you know i i'm thinking about

3076
02:07:05,030 --> 02:07:02,000
food

3077
02:07:07,990 --> 02:07:05,040
so i jump over i haven't eaten

3078
02:07:09,669 --> 02:07:08,000
uh it's nine o'clock okay so i'm going

3079
02:07:11,510 --> 02:07:09,679
on

3080
02:07:13,030 --> 02:07:11,520
not quite 12 hours but certainly about

3081
02:07:15,830 --> 02:07:13,040
about 10 hours

3082
02:07:17,189 --> 02:07:15,840
uh 11 o'clock today i had lunch it's now

3083
02:07:21,430 --> 02:07:17,199
9 o'clock

3084
02:07:23,910 --> 02:07:21,440
and i'm not done with the show until 10

3085
02:07:25,350 --> 02:07:23,920
and this is the point of my day where

3086
02:07:27,830 --> 02:07:25,360
i'm thinking about food i

3087
02:07:29,350 --> 02:07:27,840
literally haven't eaten anything in in

3088
02:07:32,390 --> 02:07:29,360
over 10 hours

3089
02:07:34,229 --> 02:07:32,400
and i jump over don over to youtube into

3090
02:07:35,189 --> 02:07:34,239
the youtube chat because i mean i'm in

3091
02:07:37,830 --> 02:07:35,199
twitter land

3092
02:07:39,510 --> 02:07:37,840
uh throughout the show uh with you right

3093
02:07:41,589 --> 02:07:39,520
so i jump over there and they're talking

3094
02:07:43,350 --> 02:07:41,599
about food man i just ordered pizzas oh

3095
02:07:46,149 --> 02:07:43,360
i'm having ice cream

3096
02:07:47,830 --> 02:07:46,159
i'm reading that i'm like you guys can't

3097
02:07:50,629 --> 02:07:47,840
do that so i'm thinking about food

3098
02:07:50,950 --> 02:07:50,639
and i come back uh you know really quick

3099
02:07:54,709 --> 02:07:50,960
to

3100
02:07:59,030 --> 02:07:54,719
were even the guest

3101
02:08:02,470 --> 02:07:59,040
man i'm thinking about hot fudge sundaes

3102
02:08:05,109 --> 02:08:02,480
i'm thinking about pizza okay

3103
02:08:06,870 --> 02:08:05,119
now it's great to leave that impression

3104
02:08:10,069 --> 02:08:06,880
i appreciate that

3105
02:08:12,550 --> 02:08:10,079
yeah i forgot i forgot who you was

3106
02:08:13,189 --> 02:08:12,560
and and you can blame all of that on on

3107
02:08:15,350 --> 02:08:13,199
youtube

3108
02:08:18,550 --> 02:08:15,360
so uh whenever i start calling you

3109
02:08:22,310 --> 02:08:18,560
george then i'm returning you know

3110
02:08:26,149 --> 02:08:22,320
totally cool man totally cool um

3111
02:08:28,709 --> 02:08:26,159
is is this uh do you

3112
02:08:30,550 --> 02:08:28,719
well i i keep going back to this report

3113
02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:30,560
because there's so much anticipation

3114
02:08:33,669 --> 02:08:30,880
here

3115
02:08:35,030 --> 02:08:33,679
it's like uh christmas eve yeah and i'm

3116
02:08:38,390 --> 02:08:35,040
excited i

3117
02:08:39,350 --> 02:08:38,400
it's probably honestly gonna go the way

3118
02:08:41,510 --> 02:08:39,360
of work

3119
02:08:44,229 --> 02:08:41,520
wait you and i are way too used to

3120
02:08:47,030 --> 02:08:44,239
disappointment in the world of ufos

3121
02:08:47,430 --> 02:08:47,040
um and i could see it honestly going the

3122
02:08:51,189 --> 02:08:47,440
way

3123
02:08:53,510 --> 02:08:51,199
that uh danny sheehan and how are we

3124
02:08:54,870 --> 02:08:53,520
to second-guess danny sheehan he's been

3125
02:08:58,149 --> 02:08:54,880
dealing with

3126
02:09:00,310 --> 02:08:58,159
capitol hill and and the courts and and

3127
02:09:01,350 --> 02:09:00,320
these subjects for a very long time he

3128
02:09:03,830 --> 02:09:01,360
knows how it plays out

3129
02:09:05,030 --> 02:09:03,840
you know washington as well as danny

3130
02:09:07,990 --> 02:09:05,040
does nobody does

3131
02:09:09,430 --> 02:09:08,000
nobody does and so when he says you know

3132
02:09:10,390 --> 02:09:09,440
i think they're just going to kick the

3133
02:09:12,790 --> 02:09:10,400
can man

3134
02:09:14,870 --> 02:09:12,800
they're going to ask for more time uh

3135
02:09:17,030 --> 02:09:14,880
they were already given 180 days and

3136
02:09:19,350 --> 02:09:17,040
that 180 days was a gift

3137
02:09:21,990 --> 02:09:19,360
it wasn't a demand this isn't in law

3138
02:09:24,390 --> 02:09:22,000
this was just like a request

3139
02:09:26,390 --> 02:09:24,400
you know for you know a little research

3140
02:09:27,189 --> 02:09:26,400
into the there wasn't any pressure put

3141
02:09:31,430 --> 02:09:27,199
on

3142
02:09:34,390 --> 02:09:31,440
intelligence there wasn't any

3143
02:09:36,069 --> 02:09:34,400
you know uh any penalties if he doesn't

3144
02:09:38,790 --> 02:09:36,079
deliver a report

3145
02:09:40,390 --> 02:09:38,800
so if you come back and ask for any

3146
02:09:43,990 --> 02:09:40,400
offer of protection

3147
02:09:46,709 --> 02:09:44,000
for any witnesses who

3148
02:09:48,709 --> 02:09:46,719
had security oats who would like to

3149
02:09:50,790 --> 02:09:48,719
testify behind closed doors

3150
02:09:52,069 --> 02:09:50,800
uh you mean none of that was afforded no

3151
02:09:54,149 --> 02:09:52,079
you're right and and

3152
02:09:55,189 --> 02:09:54,159
so certainly if there's going to be a

3153
02:09:57,350 --> 02:09:55,199
reference to

3154
02:10:00,069 --> 02:09:57,360
a couple of cases the nimitz will be

3155
02:10:00,550 --> 02:10:00,079
there the roosevelt will be there maybe

3156
02:10:04,790 --> 02:10:00,560
this

3157
02:10:07,030 --> 02:10:04,800
newest uh uh incident in july of 2019

3158
02:10:08,790 --> 02:10:07,040
again in the same general area off of

3159
02:10:10,310 --> 02:10:08,800
san clemente island

3160
02:10:11,830 --> 02:10:10,320
uh off the coast of there in southern

3161
02:10:15,109 --> 02:10:11,840
california san diego

3162
02:10:19,270 --> 02:10:15,119
but do you do do you expect

3163
02:10:22,470 --> 02:10:19,280
uh any references to to roswell

3164
02:10:24,709 --> 02:10:22,480
no not for a second and

3165
02:10:25,589 --> 02:10:24,719
when leslie keem and and ralph

3166
02:10:28,629 --> 02:10:25,599
bloomingthal

3167
02:10:31,750 --> 02:10:28,639
when they did that interview with

3168
02:10:35,589 --> 02:10:31,760
senator harry reid and they reported to

3169
02:10:37,910 --> 02:10:35,599
the new york times that he talked about

3170
02:10:38,950 --> 02:10:37,920
the military being in possession of

3171
02:10:41,830 --> 02:10:38,960
hardware

3172
02:10:43,830 --> 02:10:41,840
of physical proof and the fact that he

3173
02:10:45,910 --> 02:10:43,840
then walked that back

3174
02:10:47,669 --> 02:10:45,920
did he get that proverbial phone call

3175
02:10:48,870 --> 02:10:47,679
did he feel that he spoke out of turn

3176
02:10:53,189 --> 02:10:48,880
that he said something

3177
02:10:55,830 --> 02:10:53,199
he shouldn't have or um

3178
02:10:57,910 --> 02:10:55,840
was he misquoted well both keenan and

3179
02:11:00,470 --> 02:10:57,920
bloomington say absolutely not

3180
02:11:01,030 --> 02:11:00,480
they're not backing down but granted the

3181
02:11:04,870 --> 02:11:01,040
times

3182
02:11:07,910 --> 02:11:04,880
did uh retract that that was a full

3183
02:11:09,990 --> 02:11:07,920
back pedal retraction total

3184
02:11:12,870 --> 02:11:10,000
and the fact that supposedly reid went

3185
02:11:15,270 --> 02:11:12,880
so far as suggested lockheed

3186
02:11:17,669 --> 02:11:15,280
you know was the source that it was his

3187
02:11:20,149 --> 02:11:17,679
impression that lockheed has possessed

3188
02:11:21,109 --> 02:11:20,159
uh such material all these years well

3189
02:11:24,390 --> 02:11:21,119
then

3190
02:11:25,910 --> 02:11:24,400
i i look at that and i go my when i'm

3191
02:11:28,149 --> 02:11:25,920
asked today

3192
02:11:29,109 --> 02:11:28,159
where do you think the roswell wreckage

3193
02:11:31,430 --> 02:11:29,119
is

3194
02:11:33,189 --> 02:11:31,440
and i will just flatly state i don't

3195
02:11:35,750 --> 02:11:33,199
believe the government has it

3196
02:11:37,510 --> 02:11:35,760
i don't believe the military has it i

3197
02:11:40,709 --> 02:11:37,520
think that may also be

3198
02:11:43,270 --> 02:11:40,719
some of the uh concern

3199
02:11:44,870 --> 02:11:43,280
right now and that eisenhower certainly

3200
02:11:46,149 --> 02:11:44,880
was correct when he warned us about the

3201
02:11:50,310 --> 02:11:46,159
military industrial

3202
02:11:53,030 --> 02:11:50,320
complex that need we be reminded that

3203
02:11:54,069 --> 02:11:53,040
the military slash government doesn't

3204
02:11:57,109 --> 02:11:54,079
manufacture

3205
02:11:59,430 --> 02:11:57,119
anything as to tanks ships

3206
02:12:00,229 --> 02:11:59,440
planes missiles that type of thing

3207
02:12:03,510 --> 02:12:00,239
everything's

3208
02:12:04,950 --> 02:12:03,520
uniform yep yeah everything contracted

3209
02:12:05,270 --> 02:12:04,960
out to the private sector and the same

3210
02:12:08,310 --> 02:12:05,280
thing

3211
02:12:10,310 --> 02:12:08,320
being with the material at roswell

3212
02:12:11,910 --> 02:12:10,320
all they could do is bury it sit on it

3213
02:12:14,229 --> 02:12:11,920
but if they wanted answers

3214
02:12:15,510 --> 02:12:14,239
they had to assimilate it into the

3215
02:12:18,229 --> 02:12:15,520
private sector

3216
02:12:19,589 --> 02:12:18,239
for analysis and the potential for

3217
02:12:21,750 --> 02:12:19,599
reverse engineering

3218
02:12:23,990 --> 02:12:21,760
and so through the years we've had

3219
02:12:27,350 --> 02:12:24,000
first-hand witnesses at patel

3220
02:12:30,310 --> 02:12:27,360
boeing lockheed rann hughes

3221
02:12:31,910 --> 02:12:30,320
general electric bureau of standards all

3222
02:12:35,350 --> 02:12:31,920
talking about

3223
02:12:37,669 --> 02:12:35,360
testing the roswell wreckage not by name

3224
02:12:40,069 --> 02:12:37,679
but the fact that they had this material

3225
02:12:41,109 --> 02:12:40,079
that was beyond you know the scope of

3226
02:12:43,669 --> 02:12:41,119
our technology

3227
02:12:44,310 --> 02:12:43,679
and they were asked for answers by the

3228
02:12:47,030 --> 02:12:44,320
military

3229
02:12:48,950 --> 02:12:47,040
okay doesn't mean it was ever returned

3230
02:12:49,430 --> 02:12:48,960
because they would play that same game

3231
02:12:51,589 --> 02:12:49,440
hey

3232
02:12:53,430 --> 02:12:51,599
still working on it we need another year

3233
02:12:56,069 --> 02:12:53,440
we'll report to you in the next year

3234
02:12:56,629 --> 02:12:56,079
hey hey more time more time more time

3235
02:13:00,149 --> 02:12:56,639
and it's

3236
02:13:02,390 --> 02:13:00,159
because the the government always

3237
02:13:03,669 --> 02:13:02,400
provides you with all the time you need

3238
02:13:06,709 --> 02:13:03,679
because in the meantime

3239
02:13:09,510 --> 02:13:06,719
the meter keeps running the money keeps

3240
02:13:09,830 --> 02:13:09,520
you know the fun funneling down and just

3241
02:13:13,270 --> 02:13:09,840
like

3242
02:13:13,669 --> 02:13:13,280
seti it's lifetime employment to come up

3243
02:13:17,030 --> 02:13:13,679
with

3244
02:13:22,790 --> 02:13:20,390
and no paper trail see the the exactly

3245
02:13:24,069 --> 02:13:22,800
no paper trail and we keep talking about

3246
02:13:27,189 --> 02:13:24,079
well for you man

3247
02:13:30,149 --> 02:13:27,199
foia you can't foy a private

3248
02:13:31,669 --> 02:13:30,159
corporation i didn't get it exactly

3249
02:13:33,510 --> 02:13:31,679
jimmy you can

3250
02:13:34,950 --> 02:13:33,520
and that's another safeguard the fact

3251
02:13:36,950 --> 02:13:34,960
that they turn it over to private

3252
02:13:39,270 --> 02:13:36,960
corporations and we can't touch them

3253
02:13:40,149 --> 02:13:39,280
it's gone it's gone that that that that

3254
02:13:43,270 --> 02:13:40,159
connection is

3255
02:13:44,629 --> 02:13:43,280
is over yeah yeah it's over yeah now i

3256
02:13:47,910 --> 02:13:44,639
wanted to ask you

3257
02:13:50,390 --> 02:13:47,920
this news story broke earlier today and

3258
02:13:52,709 --> 02:13:50,400
you probably haven't heard it yet but

3259
02:13:53,430 --> 02:13:52,719
when i tell you what i'm about to tell

3260
02:13:58,629 --> 02:13:53,440
you

3261
02:14:01,270 --> 02:13:58,639
now check this out i need to sit

3262
02:14:02,790 --> 02:14:01,280
your old buddy ray santilli is back in

3263
02:14:05,990 --> 02:14:02,800
the news oh yes

3264
02:14:08,790 --> 02:14:06,000
yes did you hear about this no i

3265
02:14:09,189 --> 02:14:08,800
heard something uh but keep going it's

3266
02:14:14,550 --> 02:14:09,199
okay

3267
02:14:17,830 --> 02:14:14,560
ray santilli

3268
02:14:18,950 --> 02:14:17,840
says that uh the original film that

3269
02:14:21,830 --> 02:14:18,960
disintegrated

3270
02:14:23,109 --> 02:14:21,840
right that yeah he had purchased a

3271
02:14:27,189 --> 02:14:23,119
recreation right

3272
02:14:30,550 --> 02:14:27,199
right he is auctioning off

3273
02:14:34,310 --> 02:14:30,560
one single frame of the

3274
02:14:36,950 --> 02:14:34,320
original film of the body

3275
02:14:37,830 --> 02:14:36,960
and it's up for auction right now

3276
02:14:40,709 --> 02:14:37,840
minimum

3277
02:14:43,669 --> 02:14:40,719
opening bid of i don't know where he

3278
02:14:45,830 --> 02:14:43,679
came up with this number but this is it

3279
02:14:47,510 --> 02:14:45,840
one million one hundred and ninety two

3280
02:14:48,470 --> 02:14:47,520
thousand four hundred and sixteen

3281
02:14:52,390 --> 02:14:48,480
dollars and seven

3282
02:14:56,470 --> 02:14:52,400
cents that's that's the opening

3283
02:14:57,109 --> 02:14:56,480
bid number he says that it is the frame

3284
02:14:59,430 --> 02:14:57,119
from the

3285
02:15:00,550 --> 02:14:59,440
original i read all of his quotes uh in

3286
02:15:04,069 --> 02:15:00,560
this press release

3287
02:15:07,669 --> 02:15:04,079
this is the uh one of the surviving

3288
02:15:10,870 --> 02:15:07,679
few frames of the film and that

3289
02:15:14,069 --> 02:15:10,880
he has uh the winner of

3290
02:15:17,669 --> 02:15:14,079
the bid will get cia

3291
02:15:21,109 --> 02:15:17,679
documents proving this is

3292
02:15:24,390 --> 02:15:21,119
real now um i've got a picture

3293
02:15:25,430 --> 02:15:24,400
um if uh there's a thing called the

3294
02:15:26,870 --> 02:15:25,440
internet don

3295
02:15:28,629 --> 02:15:26,880
the internet it's gonna be big and

3296
02:15:30,629 --> 02:15:28,639
there's this thing called twitter um

3297
02:15:32,069 --> 02:15:30,639
on on the internet that you can get on

3298
02:15:34,629 --> 02:15:32,079
your interbox

3299
02:15:36,870 --> 02:15:34,639
and i'll have to talk to my broker yeah

3300
02:15:38,390 --> 02:15:36,880
if you go there and you go to my twitter

3301
02:15:41,910 --> 02:15:38,400
feed you can see

3302
02:15:45,589 --> 02:15:41,920
uh the image that i posted

3303
02:15:46,629 --> 02:15:45,599
of this original frame alleged i'm going

3304
02:15:50,550 --> 02:15:46,639
to say

3305
02:15:54,310 --> 02:15:50,560
um and it's here and with this uh

3306
02:15:57,990 --> 02:15:54,320
alien body on on the slab

3307
02:16:00,629 --> 02:15:58,000
it's right here okay so

3308
02:16:01,910 --> 02:16:00,639
i'm gonna use a bad word don don't don't

3309
02:16:07,270 --> 02:16:01,920
hold this again

3310
02:16:11,750 --> 02:16:10,069
well we were the when they even

3311
02:16:15,109 --> 02:16:11,760
presented the autopsy

3312
02:16:17,990 --> 02:16:15,119
video because it was always

3313
02:16:20,069 --> 02:16:18,000
nothing more than a video even when they

3314
02:16:22,870 --> 02:16:20,079
claimed that they had

3315
02:16:26,229 --> 02:16:22,880
a frame footage analyzed and that it

3316
02:16:29,350 --> 02:16:26,239
dated circa 1947

3317
02:16:32,469 --> 02:16:29,360
it was just leader strip leader frame

3318
02:16:34,309 --> 02:16:32,479
that's right they were never able to

3319
02:16:37,429 --> 02:16:34,319
demonstrate that it was actually

3320
02:16:40,629 --> 02:16:37,439
any frame footage okay fine so

3321
02:16:43,110 --> 02:16:40,639
i mean for all the debates and the fact

3322
02:16:44,549 --> 02:16:43,120
that they were trying to play this up as

3323
02:16:47,910 --> 02:16:44,559
the roswell

3324
02:16:48,629 --> 02:16:47,920
autopsy film and we got them to back

3325
02:16:51,509 --> 02:16:48,639
down

3326
02:16:53,270 --> 02:16:51,519
immediately because first of all we were

3327
02:16:56,309 --> 02:16:53,280
able to demonstrate that

3328
02:16:59,110 --> 02:16:56,319
i mean we did as they had requested

3329
02:16:59,669 --> 02:16:59,120
show it to all of your arousal witnesses

3330
02:17:01,589 --> 02:16:59,679
see if

3331
02:17:02,950 --> 02:17:01,599
any one of them confirmed that this is

3332
02:17:06,309 --> 02:17:02,960
what they observed

3333
02:17:08,070 --> 02:17:06,319
back in 1947 and not a one

3334
02:17:10,070 --> 02:17:08,080
not a one they looked at it and went my

3335
02:17:13,190 --> 02:17:10,080
god not even close

3336
02:17:15,509 --> 02:17:13,200
not even close and then we quickly

3337
02:17:16,870 --> 02:17:15,519
no you are not going to call this the

3338
02:17:19,990 --> 02:17:16,880
roswell

3339
02:17:22,549 --> 02:17:20,000
alien autopsy film so now it just stands

3340
02:17:24,230 --> 02:17:22,559
as the alien autopsy okay fine

3341
02:17:27,030 --> 02:17:24,240
and they've even changed the date it's

3342
02:17:29,750 --> 02:17:27,040
now may of 1947.

3343
02:17:31,030 --> 02:17:29,760
they moved it up a few months month and

3344
02:17:34,549 --> 02:17:31,040
a half

3345
02:17:38,070 --> 02:17:34,559
so they at least cooperated that ray

3346
02:17:40,830 --> 02:17:38,080
and at the time his supporters they did

3347
02:17:42,469 --> 02:17:40,840
cooperate with us at as far as to that

3348
02:17:45,270 --> 02:17:42,479
extent but

3349
02:17:45,830 --> 02:17:45,280
here for all these years and then for uh

3350
02:17:47,750 --> 02:17:45,840
spiro

3351
02:17:49,110 --> 02:17:47,760
as far as the magician and his

3352
02:17:52,230 --> 02:17:49,120
demonstrating that

3353
02:17:54,150 --> 02:17:52,240
this was all on a lark that you know he

3354
02:17:56,230 --> 02:17:54,160
put this together trying to demonstrate

3355
02:17:58,070 --> 02:17:56,240
that he could get away with it and as a

3356
02:17:58,950 --> 02:17:58,080
magician as far as just putting together

3357
02:18:00,549 --> 02:17:58,960
props

3358
02:18:03,190 --> 02:18:00,559
that he even you know was able to

3359
02:18:06,150 --> 02:18:03,200
demonstrate how to create the latex

3360
02:18:07,669 --> 02:18:06,160
body and the incisions are almost done

3361
02:18:09,349 --> 02:18:07,679
with the hand in the foreground because

3362
02:18:11,990 --> 02:18:09,359
latex tends to pucker

3363
02:18:13,830 --> 02:18:12,000
as you cut it unlike actual tissue

3364
02:18:15,669 --> 02:18:13,840
biological tissue which will

3365
02:18:17,349 --> 02:18:15,679
separate very clean very openly that

3366
02:18:20,790 --> 02:18:17,359
type of thing on and on and on

3367
02:18:23,990 --> 02:18:20,800
but the point being why now once

3368
02:18:27,750 --> 02:18:24,000
again is it just also playing up on all

3369
02:18:30,629 --> 02:18:27,760
the publicity for the time being or

3370
02:18:31,990 --> 02:18:30,639
is this going to be part of the

3371
02:18:36,950 --> 02:18:32,000
distraction

3372
02:18:41,349 --> 02:18:36,960
part of the diversion now what if

3373
02:18:44,230 --> 02:18:41,359
what if this is real

3374
02:18:45,830 --> 02:18:44,240
what if what i am looking at here and

3375
02:18:46,309 --> 02:18:45,840
everybody else you can go to my twitter

3376
02:18:49,429 --> 02:18:46,319
feed

3377
02:18:52,790 --> 02:18:49,439
right now everybody at j church radio

3378
02:18:56,150 --> 02:18:52,800
you can see the image what if this

3379
02:18:59,990 --> 02:18:56,160
is a an alien body what if this

3380
02:19:03,270 --> 02:19:00,000
is the real deal what if i mean what if

3381
02:19:06,070 --> 02:19:03,280
right what if jimmy you are

3382
02:19:06,950 --> 02:19:06,080
you know speaking my language because

3383
02:19:09,910 --> 02:19:06,960
that is the

3384
02:19:11,110 --> 02:19:09,920
one thing as investigators and i remind

3385
02:19:14,230 --> 02:19:11,120
journalists

3386
02:19:17,509 --> 02:19:14,240
all the time that one needs to step

3387
02:19:21,270 --> 02:19:17,519
back no matter what one's conclusion and

3388
02:19:23,349 --> 02:19:21,280
still ask what if what if the witness is

3389
02:19:26,230 --> 02:19:23,359
still telling me the truth

3390
02:19:27,429 --> 02:19:26,240
what if i am the one that is misjudging

3391
02:19:29,669 --> 02:19:27,439
misinterpreting

3392
02:19:30,709 --> 02:19:29,679
i mean it's their experience in this

3393
02:19:33,270 --> 02:19:30,719
case it's

3394
02:19:34,070 --> 02:19:33,280
it's it's a film it's a frame from a

3395
02:19:37,270 --> 02:19:34,080
film okay

3396
02:19:39,429 --> 02:19:37,280
fine and i don't question that it

3397
02:19:41,509 --> 02:19:39,439
looks like it may be genuine in that

3398
02:19:45,990 --> 02:19:41,519
capacity

3399
02:19:49,830 --> 02:19:46,000
and what if what if

3400
02:19:54,070 --> 02:19:53,030
though i mean and as the as the old

3401
02:19:57,510 --> 02:19:54,080
saying

3402
02:19:59,349 --> 02:19:57,520
an antique a frame of film a painting

3403
02:20:01,990 --> 02:19:59,359
is only worth what somebody's willing to

3404
02:20:07,830 --> 02:20:05,429
in this case it's 1.2 million dollars

3405
02:20:10,710 --> 02:20:07,840
and there's there's another there's

3406
02:20:13,910 --> 02:20:10,720
another caveat here

3407
02:20:16,950 --> 02:20:13,920
kit green in his

3408
02:20:17,510 --> 02:20:16,960
email correspondence with his with his

3409
02:20:22,630 --> 02:20:17,520
buddies

3410
02:20:26,870 --> 02:20:22,640
put off in in the crew stated to them

3411
02:20:31,110 --> 02:20:26,880
that he was shown images

3412
02:20:33,990 --> 02:20:31,120
at the cia of an alien autopsy

3413
02:20:35,110 --> 02:20:34,000
uh purported to be from roswell and when

3414
02:20:37,830 --> 02:20:35,120
he looked at those

3415
02:20:39,910 --> 02:20:37,840
images right right you do and when he

3416
02:20:41,110 --> 02:20:39,920
looked at those images and then saw ray

3417
02:20:44,790 --> 02:20:41,120
santilli's fake

3418
02:20:47,110 --> 02:20:44,800
film they were the same

3419
02:20:49,110 --> 02:20:47,120
right and now now kit kit's a smart guy

3420
02:20:50,389 --> 02:20:49,120
he's going to remember the image that he

3421
02:20:52,790 --> 02:20:50,399
was shown at cia

3422
02:20:54,550 --> 02:20:52,800
of course he is and then he sees race

3423
02:20:57,590 --> 02:20:54,560
and tilly's film he's like holy crap

3424
02:21:00,710 --> 02:20:57,600
right okay well when you look at

3425
02:21:01,190 --> 02:21:00,720
this single frame and it's you can it's

3426
02:21:03,270 --> 02:21:01,200
got the

3427
02:21:05,349 --> 02:21:03,280
the film the sockets or whatever you

3428
02:21:07,750 --> 02:21:05,359
call the you know the holes on the side

3429
02:21:09,349 --> 02:21:07,760
uh uh whatever you i don't know what do

3430
02:21:12,870 --> 02:21:09,359
you call those

3431
02:21:14,710 --> 02:21:12,880
anyway uh

3432
02:21:17,030 --> 02:21:14,720
the sprocket hole the sprocket holes

3433
02:21:18,309 --> 02:21:17,040
because on the projector it's a sprocket

3434
02:21:21,429 --> 02:21:18,319
yeah it's a sprocket yeah

3435
02:21:25,190 --> 02:21:21,439
okay um this image

3436
02:21:27,670 --> 02:21:25,200
is nearly identical at least the body

3437
02:21:30,790 --> 02:21:27,680
uh that you see here in this image is

3438
02:21:32,550 --> 02:21:30,800
nearly identical to ray santilli's film

3439
02:21:34,150 --> 02:21:32,560
there's some equipment in the background

3440
02:21:34,550 --> 02:21:34,160
there's some things the phone is on the

3441
02:21:36,710 --> 02:21:34,560
wall

3442
02:21:39,030 --> 02:21:36,720
you can see the phone cord hanging down

3443
02:21:42,710 --> 02:21:39,040
in this particular shot

3444
02:21:45,590 --> 02:21:42,720
um so you can see if if this is real

3445
02:21:47,990 --> 02:21:45,600
how ray recreated it like he said right

3446
02:21:51,750 --> 02:21:48,000
he built the set around the original

3447
02:21:53,670 --> 02:21:51,760
um i could see why kit would recognize

3448
02:21:55,910 --> 02:21:53,680
this i see this and i'm like okay that's

3449
02:21:59,270 --> 02:21:55,920
the alien autopsy film it's

3450
02:22:01,990 --> 02:21:59,280
the body is nearly identical

3451
02:22:04,389 --> 02:22:02,000
so i'm just i i don't know i i don't

3452
02:22:06,630 --> 02:22:04,399
know is ray playing everybody

3453
02:22:08,150 --> 02:22:06,640
and at this point with everything that

3454
02:22:11,990 --> 02:22:08,160
went down with the hoax

3455
02:22:15,590 --> 02:22:12,000
and the way that uh the money grab

3456
02:22:16,710 --> 02:22:15,600
right the the the grifting that ray did

3457
02:22:19,990 --> 02:22:16,720
on the world for

3458
02:22:23,110 --> 02:22:20,000
tens of millions of dollars exactly

3459
02:22:26,550 --> 02:22:23,120
what he got from fox television alone

3460
02:22:30,389 --> 02:22:26,560
just that i heard it was 75 million

3461
02:22:31,270 --> 02:22:30,399
so would he step back and put his toe

3462
02:22:34,309 --> 02:22:31,280
back in that

3463
02:22:35,349 --> 02:22:34,319
water and fleece again would he grift

3464
02:22:38,710 --> 02:22:35,359
again

3465
02:22:41,670 --> 02:22:38,720
i don't think that he would maybe but

3466
02:22:42,950 --> 02:22:41,680
i don't know i well i don't know if

3467
02:22:46,070 --> 02:22:42,960
you've ever talked to him ever

3468
02:22:47,110 --> 02:22:46,080
met him i never have i mean i've always

3469
02:22:49,270 --> 02:22:47,120
relied on

3470
02:22:51,990 --> 02:22:49,280
like philip mantle right and his

3471
02:22:53,030 --> 02:22:52,000
colleagues and as much as michael hesman

3472
02:22:56,389 --> 02:22:53,040
from germany

3473
02:23:00,389 --> 02:22:56,399
right uh always supported santilli

3474
02:23:04,309 --> 02:23:00,399
but everything has been so quiet for now

3475
02:23:07,750 --> 02:23:04,319
over 15 years regarding this yeah

3476
02:23:11,830 --> 02:23:07,760
and is is santilli taking advantage

3477
02:23:14,870 --> 02:23:11,840
of the present situation or

3478
02:23:16,469 --> 02:23:14,880
is somebody is somebody prodding is

3479
02:23:20,710 --> 02:23:16,479
somebody encouraging him

3480
02:23:25,270 --> 02:23:20,720
to do that because it once again

3481
02:23:27,830 --> 02:23:25,280
is contrary to the actual

3482
02:23:29,110 --> 02:23:27,840
eyewitness testimony of roswell that was

3483
02:23:31,990 --> 02:23:29,120
always the problem

3484
02:23:32,389 --> 02:23:32,000
to begin with with the autopsy situation

3485
02:23:34,790 --> 02:23:32,399
and

3486
02:23:36,309 --> 02:23:34,800
here again it raises its ugly head so to

3487
02:23:38,630 --> 02:23:36,319
speak

3488
02:23:39,510 --> 02:23:38,640
and it may have nothing more than the

3489
02:23:41,990 --> 02:23:39,520
intent that

3490
02:23:43,990 --> 02:23:42,000
it just that there are those gullible

3491
02:23:46,550 --> 02:23:44,000
ufo believers again

3492
02:23:47,190 --> 02:23:46,560
who believe anything just to make their

3493
02:23:49,190 --> 02:23:47,200
case

3494
02:23:51,349 --> 02:23:49,200
and i've been there myself i don't deny

3495
02:23:52,710 --> 02:23:51,359
that because we want to finish this we

3496
02:23:56,309 --> 02:23:52,720
want answers

3497
02:23:57,990 --> 02:23:56,319
but when things come back after they

3498
02:23:59,750 --> 02:23:58,000
supposedly have been thoroughly

3499
02:24:01,910 --> 02:23:59,760
disproven and

3500
02:24:03,910 --> 02:24:01,920
it's like well let me you know wave

3501
02:24:05,510 --> 02:24:03,920
another carrot and see if you bite once

3502
02:24:07,030 --> 02:24:05,520
again

3503
02:24:09,830 --> 02:24:07,040
so i'm going to need a lot more

3504
02:24:13,110 --> 02:24:09,840
information and

3505
02:24:14,950 --> 02:24:13,120
i had heard that in passing

3506
02:24:16,389 --> 02:24:14,960
through the rumor mill and now you just

3507
02:24:19,429 --> 02:24:16,399
confirmed it that that's

3508
02:24:20,950 --> 02:24:19,439
exactly the situation now i'm

3509
02:24:22,469 --> 02:24:20,960
saying that it has anything to do with

3510
02:24:26,150 --> 02:24:22,479
roswell i say

3511
02:24:29,590 --> 02:24:26,160
absolutely not because it in no way

3512
02:24:31,590 --> 02:24:29,600
depicts or matches what our eyewitnesses

3513
02:24:32,630 --> 02:24:31,600
have described to us now for over 30

3514
02:24:36,630 --> 02:24:32,640
years

3515
02:24:39,349 --> 02:24:36,640
um i am emailing you

3516
02:24:39,670 --> 02:24:39,359
right now okay you've got your computer

3517
02:24:41,190 --> 02:24:39,680
there

3518
02:24:43,429 --> 02:24:41,200
you've got a way to check your email

3519
02:24:45,429 --> 02:24:43,439
live on the air

3520
02:24:46,710 --> 02:24:45,439
uh no i don't not in the hotel room here

3521
02:24:50,070 --> 02:24:46,720
no oh man

3522
02:24:51,270 --> 02:24:50,080
don schmidt emails emails email's gonna

3523
02:24:53,349 --> 02:24:51,280
be big someday

3524
02:24:55,110 --> 02:24:53,359
um it's gonna be living out of my

3525
02:24:58,550 --> 02:24:55,120
briefcase again so yeah

3526
02:25:01,349 --> 02:24:58,560
okay i'm sending you

3527
02:25:02,469 --> 02:25:01,359
uh the frame i'm sending you the image

3528
02:25:04,950 --> 02:25:02,479
so you've got it

3529
02:25:06,790 --> 02:25:04,960
great and uh you just check that out

3530
02:25:09,510 --> 02:25:06,800
it's pretty trippy man

3531
02:25:10,870 --> 02:25:09,520
and uh when when i looked at it look i

3532
02:25:13,910 --> 02:25:10,880
know i don't buy anything

3533
02:25:17,110 --> 02:25:13,920
okay i don't but be but be careful

3534
02:25:20,309 --> 02:25:17,120
as far as any time we cite

3535
02:25:21,110 --> 02:25:20,319
one of the intelligence agencies because

3536
02:25:24,710 --> 02:25:21,120
by the very

3537
02:25:28,630 --> 02:25:24,720
definition of intelligence it's covert

3538
02:25:31,910 --> 02:25:28,640
it's essentially uh it basically is

3539
02:25:34,710 --> 02:25:31,920
bs well it's like

3540
02:25:36,150 --> 02:25:34,720
like i said this is if there's anything

3541
02:25:39,590 --> 02:25:36,160
that makes me go hmm

3542
02:25:41,349 --> 02:25:39,600
with this i just go back to kit green's

3543
02:25:42,790 --> 02:25:41,359
original statements because look this is

3544
02:25:45,830 --> 02:25:42,800
what i said

3545
02:25:49,270 --> 02:25:45,840
um i said this to everybody too

3546
02:25:50,230 --> 02:25:49,280
when i read the exchange between put off

3547
02:25:52,070 --> 02:25:50,240
and kick green

3548
02:25:53,270 --> 02:25:52,080
and others in that group right i'm

3549
02:25:56,710 --> 02:25:53,280
reading that i'm like

3550
02:26:00,150 --> 02:25:56,720
kid can't be that stupid is he saying

3551
02:26:02,870 --> 02:26:00,160
that he believes that the roswell film

3552
02:26:04,630 --> 02:26:02,880
is authentic right and i went through

3553
02:26:06,790 --> 02:26:04,640
all of that in my mind i thought kit

3554
02:26:07,110 --> 02:26:06,800
cannot be that dumb anybody who looks at

3555
02:26:10,550 --> 02:26:07,120
the

3556
02:26:13,190 --> 02:26:10,560
roswell film knows that it's not uh

3557
02:26:13,750 --> 02:26:13,200
uh uh real that that was the uh the

3558
02:26:16,150 --> 02:26:13,760
original

3559
02:26:17,670 --> 02:26:16,160
basically when someone comes forward and

3560
02:26:21,110 --> 02:26:17,680
confesses

3561
02:26:24,790 --> 02:26:21,120
to as far as the the fakery right

3562
02:26:25,750 --> 02:26:24,800
yes and and then kit uh clarified

3563
02:26:29,110 --> 02:26:25,760
everything and said

3564
02:26:32,950 --> 02:26:29,120
no no no i was shown images at sea

3565
02:26:36,070 --> 02:26:32,960
at the cia and so when i saw the film

3566
02:26:37,429 --> 02:26:36,080
i knew that what i had been presented

3567
02:26:41,750 --> 02:26:37,439
earlier and what is

3568
02:26:43,830 --> 02:26:41,760
in this hoaxed film are identical

3569
02:26:45,590 --> 02:26:43,840
so there's there's something to this

3570
02:26:49,190 --> 02:26:45,600
there's something to this well

3571
02:26:52,550 --> 02:26:49,200
i keep this is still reminiscent of

3572
02:26:55,910 --> 02:26:52,560
when that uh so-called

3573
02:26:58,309 --> 02:26:55,920
cia agent by the name of chase brandon

3574
02:26:59,429 --> 02:26:58,319
what's interesting is that the opposite

3575
02:27:03,110 --> 02:26:59,439
of the

3576
02:27:03,910 --> 02:27:03,120
producer of stan friedman's film ufos

3577
02:27:09,110 --> 02:27:03,920
are real

3578
02:27:11,190 --> 02:27:09,120
which was brandon chase and

3579
02:27:12,710 --> 02:27:11,200
that he would claim that he was in the

3580
02:27:15,190 --> 02:27:12,720
vault at the c.i.a

3581
02:27:16,469 --> 02:27:15,200
and he saw you know the entire roz will

3582
02:27:18,550 --> 02:27:16,479
file

3583
02:27:20,469 --> 02:27:18,560
also keeping in mind the cia did not

3584
02:27:22,309 --> 02:27:20,479
exist at the time at roswell

3585
02:27:24,070 --> 02:27:22,319
so why would anything why would they

3586
02:27:26,630 --> 02:27:24,080
possess anything

3587
02:27:27,429 --> 02:27:26,640
regarding the case just knowing how

3588
02:27:29,110 --> 02:27:27,439
these

3589
02:27:31,429 --> 02:27:29,120
departments work and how they don't

3590
02:27:33,190 --> 02:27:31,439
share for example the nsa doesn't share

3591
02:27:35,349 --> 02:27:33,200
anything with the cia and vice versa

3592
02:27:37,030 --> 02:27:35,359
and the app you throw the fbi in for the

3593
02:27:37,910 --> 02:27:37,040
you know you know into the mix if you'd

3594
02:27:40,790 --> 02:27:37,920
like

3595
02:27:41,590 --> 02:27:40,800
whatever happened to chase brandon i

3596
02:27:43,429 --> 02:27:41,600
mean he's still

3597
02:27:45,590 --> 02:27:43,439
you know he stirred the pot there for a

3598
02:27:48,389 --> 02:27:45,600
minute he whoo

3599
02:27:50,469 --> 02:27:48,399
he did but he's also he's also a

3600
02:27:52,710 --> 02:27:50,479
novelist he writes fiction

3601
02:27:53,670 --> 02:27:52,720
as far as that we were able to determine

3602
02:27:56,710 --> 02:27:53,680
back then

3603
02:27:58,070 --> 02:27:56,720
he was writing spy novels okay i'm gonna

3604
02:28:02,150 --> 02:27:58,080
i'm just gonna say this

3605
02:28:05,510 --> 02:28:04,469
i thought at some point i know where

3606
02:28:07,670 --> 02:28:05,520
you're going yeah

3607
02:28:10,830 --> 02:28:07,680
i thought that chase brandon and richard

3608
02:28:12,070 --> 02:28:10,840
hoagland were related and separated at

3609
02:28:14,710 --> 02:28:12,080
birth

3610
02:28:15,590 --> 02:28:14,720
they had the same hair stylist i'm just

3611
02:28:20,309 --> 02:28:15,600
saying that

3612
02:28:23,349 --> 02:28:20,319
coincidence maybe i don't know

3613
02:28:26,230 --> 02:28:23,359
i don't know you still respect me

3614
02:28:28,230 --> 02:28:26,240
don't you you still both know richard so

3615
02:28:30,630 --> 02:28:28,240
he knows we're kidding

3616
02:28:31,830 --> 02:28:30,640
oh i don't know i don't know if i'm

3617
02:28:34,950 --> 02:28:31,840
getting maybe i am

3618
02:28:37,510 --> 02:28:34,960
maybe i am but they but

3619
02:28:38,710 --> 02:28:37,520
if if you go back you look at chase

3620
02:28:41,190 --> 02:28:38,720
brandon's pictures

3621
02:28:42,870 --> 02:28:41,200
and hoaglan at the same time right back

3622
02:28:44,550 --> 02:28:42,880
in that period

3623
02:28:47,110 --> 02:28:44,560
dude they got their hair cut at the same

3624
02:28:50,309 --> 02:28:47,120
joint i'm just saying

3625
02:28:51,110 --> 02:28:50,319
i'm just saying hey don you are the very

3626
02:28:53,030 --> 02:28:51,120
best man

3627
02:28:54,150 --> 02:28:53,040
you are the very best i can't wait to

3628
02:28:57,190 --> 02:28:54,160
get you back on the show

3629
02:29:00,790 --> 02:28:57,200
and uh what i would like to do

3630
02:29:01,830 --> 02:29:00,800
um is uh invite you back sometime in

3631
02:29:05,270 --> 02:29:01,840
early may

3632
02:29:06,150 --> 02:29:05,280
after we get june behind us and i want

3633
02:29:09,510 --> 02:29:06,160
your comments

3634
02:29:12,150 --> 02:29:09,520
on on how things are are

3635
02:29:13,750 --> 02:29:12,160
hopefully spinning out of control but uh

3636
02:29:17,510 --> 02:29:13,760
i can't wait for your interesting

3637
02:29:20,070 --> 02:29:17,520
and what looks like maybe as far as uh

3638
02:29:20,710 --> 02:29:20,080
pending at that time if we feel any more

3639
02:29:23,750 --> 02:29:20,720
confident

3640
02:29:25,910 --> 02:29:23,760
as to any form of a breakthrough or

3641
02:29:27,750 --> 02:29:25,920
if just as you mentioned danishee and

3642
02:29:28,469 --> 02:29:27,760
that we realize that no it's going to be

3643
02:29:31,910 --> 02:29:28,479
the same

3644
02:29:34,309 --> 02:29:31,920
same old same old and we hope not

3645
02:29:35,270 --> 02:29:34,319
that maybe the mole is about to be

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02:29:37,590 --> 02:29:35,280
broken

3647
02:29:38,710 --> 02:29:37,600
and we're about to finally be taken into

3648
02:29:40,389 --> 02:29:38,720
you know their confidence

3649
02:29:41,750 --> 02:29:40,399
but then there needs to be action there

3650
02:29:43,910 --> 02:29:41,760
needs to be hearings

3651
02:29:45,349 --> 02:29:43,920
and we need to be part of that that's

3652
02:29:47,590 --> 02:29:45,359
the one thing

3653
02:29:48,550 --> 02:29:47,600
um out of all of this and i'm not i'm

3654
02:29:51,910 --> 02:29:48,560
not in

3655
02:29:53,830 --> 02:29:51,920
any way kidding about this the one thing

3656
02:29:56,469 --> 02:29:53,840
that needs to happen

3657
02:29:57,230 --> 02:29:56,479
is we need to have hearings we need to

3658
02:30:00,389 --> 02:29:57,240
have some

3659
02:30:04,070 --> 02:30:00,399
responsibility on both sides

3660
02:30:07,270 --> 02:30:04,080
taken right where uh these witnesses

3661
02:30:11,110 --> 02:30:07,280
come forward speak under oath right

3662
02:30:13,510 --> 02:30:11,120
you're not on camera this isn't history

3663
02:30:15,510 --> 02:30:13,520
and steve bassett bless his heart i mean

3664
02:30:17,349 --> 02:30:15,520
and we we showed it could be done when

3665
02:30:20,150 --> 02:30:17,359
we had the citizens hearing

3666
02:30:21,590 --> 02:30:20,160
now eight years ago right there at the

3667
02:30:24,790 --> 02:30:21,600
washington press club

3668
02:30:26,950 --> 02:30:24,800
so it could be you know it'd just be one

3669
02:30:28,309 --> 02:30:26,960
phone call to someone like steve bastet

3670
02:30:30,150 --> 02:30:28,319
and he could put the whole thing

3671
02:30:33,349 --> 02:30:30,160
together i can give you

3672
02:30:34,309 --> 02:30:33,359
seven days of witnesses from all around

3673
02:30:37,270 --> 02:30:34,319
the world and

3674
02:30:38,870 --> 02:30:37,280
icer we would contribute to that as far

3675
02:30:42,630 --> 02:30:38,880
as as to our

3676
02:30:43,030 --> 02:30:42,640
fullest extent steve deserves it and so

3677
02:30:45,590 --> 02:30:43,040
many

3678
02:30:48,070 --> 02:30:45,600
other researchers uh that have been

3679
02:30:51,110 --> 02:30:48,080
doing this for a very long time

3680
02:30:53,270 --> 02:30:51,120
all deserve it too as well and let's see

3681
02:30:55,510 --> 02:30:53,280
and talk about somebody who hasn't

3682
02:30:56,150 --> 02:30:55,520
really made a dime for all of his

3683
02:30:58,150 --> 02:30:56,160
efforts

3684
02:30:59,429 --> 02:30:58,160
and that is steve bassett people can

3685
02:31:02,230 --> 02:30:59,439
love or hate him but

3686
02:31:03,349 --> 02:31:02,240
my god talk about just full devotion

3687
02:31:06,150 --> 02:31:03,359
commitment

3688
02:31:07,510 --> 02:31:06,160
to uh you know get all of us the truth

3689
02:31:10,389 --> 02:31:07,520
regarding this subject

3690
02:31:11,270 --> 02:31:10,399
and an all-around cool guy all around

3691
02:31:13,750 --> 02:31:11,280
all around

3692
02:31:14,710 --> 02:31:13,760
don thank you so much safe travels back

3693
02:31:17,429 --> 02:31:14,720
home

3694
02:31:19,510 --> 02:31:17,439
and uh uh i i just can't wait to get you

3695
02:31:21,750 --> 02:31:19,520
back on next month and

3696
02:31:22,550 --> 02:31:21,760
and uh get your reaction whatever that

3697
02:31:24,469 --> 02:31:22,560
reaction

3698
02:31:26,070 --> 02:31:24,479
is going to be but uh thank you so much

3699
02:31:27,910 --> 02:31:26,080
and again thank you for

3700
02:31:30,230 --> 02:31:27,920
everything that you have done for this

3701
02:31:33,270 --> 02:31:30,240
community thank you so much sir well

3702
02:31:35,590 --> 02:31:33,280
you are so as far as uh wonderful

3703
02:31:36,550 --> 02:31:35,600
as far as in providing all of us with

3704
02:31:39,030 --> 02:31:36,560
this venue

3705
02:31:39,590 --> 02:31:39,040
we love your show we love you jimmy and

3706
02:31:41,910 --> 02:31:39,600
just

3707
02:31:43,429 --> 02:31:41,920
you know keep leading on we're right

3708
02:31:44,950 --> 02:31:43,439
there with you thank you so much

3709
02:31:47,670 --> 02:31:44,960
you're the best don thank you so much

3710
02:31:49,190 --> 02:31:47,680
man have a great rest of your evening

3711
02:31:51,349 --> 02:31:49,200
thank you jimmy talk to you soon look

3712
02:31:53,429 --> 02:31:51,359
forward to it donald raymond

3713
02:31:54,710 --> 02:31:53,439
schmidt and again i got to thank don for

3714
02:31:56,710 --> 02:31:54,720
the fine

3715
02:31:58,230 --> 02:31:56,720
box of hair care products that arrived

3716
02:32:01,429 --> 02:31:58,240
at the studio today

3717
02:32:03,990 --> 02:32:01,439
don schmidt incredible okay

3718
02:32:04,790 --> 02:32:04,000
i sir i will get everybody the

3719
02:32:07,510 --> 02:32:04,800
information

3720
02:32:09,670 --> 02:32:07,520
as it develops with icer this is an

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02:32:11,270 --> 02:32:09,680
incredible development for our community

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i'm your host jimmy church this is fade

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[Music]

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02:37:16,309 --> 02:37:14,960
so funny welcome back fade to black i'm

3826
02:37:19,349 --> 02:37:16,319
real jimmy church

3827
02:37:21,270 --> 02:37:19,359
don schmidt the absolute very best

3828
02:37:22,550 --> 02:37:21,280
one of the coolest guys ever if you get

3829
02:37:25,510 --> 02:37:22,560
a chance if you

3830
02:37:26,870 --> 02:37:25,520
you know and and he's around and and you

3831
02:37:28,790 --> 02:37:26,880
get a chance to say hello

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02:37:30,150 --> 02:37:28,800
you you will understand exactly what i'm

3833
02:37:33,990 --> 02:37:30,160
saying one of the one of the

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coolest guys uh i've come to know

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02:37:40,710 --> 02:37:36,880
um uh what i was going to say oh

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02:37:44,710 --> 02:37:43,429
over in the youtube chat which is one of

3837
02:37:47,270 --> 02:37:44,720
the funnest places

3838
02:37:48,469 --> 02:37:47,280
to hang out i would suggest to everybody

3839
02:37:51,270 --> 02:37:48,479
split your screen

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get a couple tabs open have a tweet deck

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02:37:54,230 --> 02:37:52,160
on one side

3842
02:37:55,670 --> 02:37:54,240
you know the spreaker chat and then have

3843
02:37:57,830 --> 02:37:55,680
youtube right there

3844
02:38:00,389 --> 02:37:57,840
and just go at it man it is it's too

3845
02:38:04,309 --> 02:38:00,399
funny but somebody just said jimmy's

3846
02:38:10,309 --> 02:38:07,990
that's done by design come on

3847
02:38:11,030 --> 02:38:10,319
man you don't think i know what i'm

3848
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doing

3849
02:38:14,150 --> 02:38:12,319
of course my commercials have

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commercials and then somebody said and

3851
02:38:21,670 --> 02:38:16,399
this is great

3852
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um uh oh billy billy billy

3853
02:38:26,630 --> 02:38:24,319
that was good i talked to a billy carson

3854
02:38:27,750 --> 02:38:26,640
earlier today we had a phone call

3855
02:38:28,950 --> 02:38:27,760
and he called and i said hey billy

3856
02:38:31,429 --> 02:38:28,960
what's up and he said hey what's going

3857
02:38:34,150 --> 02:38:31,439
on i said oh i messed up and he said

3858
02:38:37,030 --> 02:38:34,160
what's that i said oh i didn't answer oh

3859
02:38:40,070 --> 02:38:37,040
billy billy billy he's just cracking up

3860
02:38:42,150 --> 02:38:40,080
ah that's funny that uh i got to see

3861
02:38:45,190 --> 02:38:42,160
that in youtube all right

3862
02:38:46,550 --> 02:38:45,200
open lines seven four seven two two

3863
02:38:49,670 --> 02:38:46,560
eight two zero five one

3864
02:38:50,070 --> 02:38:49,680
seven four seven two two eight two zero

3865
02:38:53,349 --> 02:38:50,080
five

3866
02:38:55,030 --> 02:38:53,359
one and uh let's see here i've got a

3867
02:38:57,510 --> 02:38:55,040
bunch of calls lined up

3868
02:39:01,190 --> 02:38:57,520
let's see who is up first hi you're live

3869
02:39:05,590 --> 02:39:03,830
jeffrey jeffrey where are you calling

3870
02:39:08,870 --> 02:39:05,600
from jeffrey

3871
02:39:12,790 --> 02:39:08,880
bountifully where

3872
02:39:16,070 --> 02:39:12,800
bountiful utah bountiful is that a city

3873
02:39:18,230 --> 02:39:16,080
or you're just saying that in general

3874
02:39:20,070 --> 02:39:18,240
just saying that in general okay fair

3875
02:39:22,870 --> 02:39:20,080
enough jeff

3876
02:39:25,590 --> 02:39:22,880
fair enough what's on your mind five

3877
02:39:29,190 --> 02:39:25,600
star what's that

3878
02:39:31,510 --> 02:39:29,200
five star oh five yeah yeah okay

3879
02:39:32,710 --> 02:39:31,520
i i'm actually going to agree with you

3880
02:39:34,550 --> 02:39:32,720
there what's on your mind tonight

3881
02:39:39,110 --> 02:39:34,560
jeffrey

3882
02:39:42,870 --> 02:39:39,120
not much but just want to say that

3883
02:39:49,830 --> 02:39:46,790
that's it that's it that's it jeff

3884
02:39:52,309 --> 02:39:49,840
you got through on the phone lines hey

3885
02:39:54,550 --> 02:39:52,319
you know i gotta say uh we love you too

3886
02:40:00,230 --> 02:39:54,560
jeffrey but did you hear uh don's

3887
02:40:02,870 --> 02:40:00,240
uh uh uh uh conversation tonight

3888
02:40:05,030 --> 02:40:02,880
yeah i love don he's a good he's a good

3889
02:40:08,550 --> 02:40:05,040
friend of mine

3890
02:40:09,510 --> 02:40:08,560
how did you meet him down there in

3891
02:40:15,830 --> 02:40:09,520
roswell

3892
02:40:18,950 --> 02:40:15,840
okay 194 1947. oh you met him in 1947

3893
02:40:22,070 --> 02:40:18,960
you bet okay all right all right

3894
02:40:25,030 --> 02:40:22,080
all right so uh uh

3895
02:40:28,150 --> 02:40:25,040
if you met donna in 1947 how old were

3896
02:40:34,950 --> 02:40:31,269
minus 1969

3897
02:40:37,510 --> 02:40:34,960
march 11.

3898
02:40:39,030 --> 02:40:37,520
that's a good answer jeff hey man listen

3899
02:40:40,230 --> 02:40:39,040
have a good night and thank you for

3900
02:40:41,429 --> 02:40:40,240
calling in and saying that you

3901
02:40:44,389 --> 02:40:41,439
appreciate the show man

3902
02:40:45,190 --> 02:40:44,399
i seriously mean that thank you so much

3903
02:40:48,389 --> 02:40:45,200
youtube

3904
02:40:49,990 --> 02:40:48,399
jeffrey

3905
02:40:51,429 --> 02:40:50,000
that's uh that's a great phone call

3906
02:40:52,550 --> 02:40:51,439
right there thank you so much for that

3907
02:40:55,750 --> 02:40:52,560
jeffrey

3908
02:40:58,950 --> 02:40:55,760
and uh uh

3909
02:41:02,309 --> 02:40:58,960
yeah 1947

3910
02:41:05,429 --> 02:41:02,319
70 how many years ago is that

3911
02:41:09,110 --> 02:41:05,439
now right it's uh

3912
02:41:12,870 --> 02:41:09,120
it's it's really funny to me that um

3913
02:41:14,469 --> 02:41:12,880
we are talking each year it's the 50th

3914
02:41:18,389 --> 02:41:14,479
anniversary of roswell

3915
02:41:21,429 --> 02:41:18,399
it's the uh it's the it's the 60th it's

3916
02:41:25,269 --> 02:41:21,439
the 70th match 75.

3917
02:41:27,190 --> 02:41:25,279
man that is crazy to me absolutely crazy

3918
02:41:28,309 --> 02:41:27,200
all right let me see who i've got up

3919
02:41:30,630 --> 02:41:28,319
next man the

3920
02:41:31,510 --> 02:41:30,640
calls are coming in okay look uh

3921
02:41:33,349 --> 02:41:31,520
everybody i'm just

3922
02:41:34,630 --> 02:41:33,359
letting you know i'm ending the phones

3923
02:41:37,510 --> 02:41:34,640
alone

3924
02:41:39,349 --> 02:41:37,520
okay this is uh this is moving along a

3925
02:41:41,590 --> 02:41:39,359
little bit too rapidly here

3926
02:41:42,550 --> 02:41:41,600
okay let's see who is up next i'm gonna

3927
02:41:45,670 --> 02:41:42,560
go here

3928
02:41:47,030 --> 02:41:45,680
in order

3929
02:41:48,469 --> 02:41:47,040
i'm going to get them all in i'm going

3930
02:41:51,030 --> 02:41:48,479
to get them all in right now hi you're

3931
02:41:53,990 --> 02:41:51,040
live on fade to black who's calling

3932
02:41:55,750 --> 02:41:54,000
hey this is phil the stalker oh phil the

3933
02:42:00,230 --> 02:41:55,760
stalker

3934
02:42:03,269 --> 02:42:00,240
right on how you doing phil who are you

3935
02:42:05,670 --> 02:42:03,279
well i'm phil the stalker

3936
02:42:07,349 --> 02:42:05,680
it's been like 25 years on the internet

3937
02:42:09,110 --> 02:42:07,359
so i don't want to change my name but

3938
02:42:09,910 --> 02:42:09,120
i'm getting a little too old for it it's

3939
02:42:12,790 --> 02:42:09,920
a funny name

3940
02:42:14,870 --> 02:42:12,800
oh stick with it man 25 years phil the

3941
02:42:18,309 --> 02:42:14,880
stalker you own it bro

3942
02:42:19,670 --> 02:42:18,319
you own it oh i did i had i had it

3943
02:42:24,830 --> 02:42:19,680
commercialized

3944
02:42:27,110 --> 02:42:24,840
did you had a great ring for the

3945
02:42:30,230 --> 02:42:27,120
uh it does

3946
02:42:31,910 --> 02:42:30,240
have a a great ring to it um phil you've

3947
02:42:35,510 --> 02:42:31,920
been hanging out for a while now

3948
02:42:37,030 --> 02:42:35,520
and and i appreciate um uh not only your

3949
02:42:37,910 --> 02:42:37,040
intelligence but your wit and your

3950
02:42:40,790 --> 02:42:37,920
sarcasm

3951
02:42:41,910 --> 02:42:40,800
and uh and and seriously i recognize and

3952
02:42:44,389 --> 02:42:41,920
i see that

3953
02:42:45,590 --> 02:42:44,399
um but what do you think uh let me ask

3954
02:42:49,030 --> 02:42:45,600
you this

3955
02:42:50,710 --> 02:42:49,040
uh the run uh fade to black is fun

3956
02:42:52,309 --> 02:42:50,720
every night no matter what we do we

3957
02:42:55,830 --> 02:42:52,319
always learn something

3958
02:42:58,309 --> 02:42:55,840
but this last six months uh with the run

3959
02:42:59,269 --> 02:42:58,319
of the shows and and where things have

3960
02:43:01,510 --> 02:42:59,279
gone

3961
02:43:03,349 --> 02:43:01,520
and everything in the ufo community

3962
02:43:05,830 --> 02:43:03,359
going down at the same time

3963
02:43:07,429 --> 02:43:05,840
it's uh it's been it's been pretty fun

3964
02:43:10,389 --> 02:43:07,439
hasn't it

3965
02:43:12,070 --> 02:43:10,399
oh yes because of this coven virus i

3966
02:43:14,309 --> 02:43:12,080
think we need the fun

3967
02:43:15,670 --> 02:43:14,319
and that's why i'm here every night it's

3968
02:43:19,110 --> 02:43:15,680
it's a

3969
02:43:20,790 --> 02:43:19,120
a break away from the the

3970
02:43:22,469 --> 02:43:20,800
the mill or whatever you want to call it

3971
02:43:24,870 --> 02:43:22,479
run in the middle uh

3972
02:43:26,710 --> 02:43:24,880
the grind the mill grinds it's it's a

3973
02:43:28,469 --> 02:43:26,720
it's it's a way to get away from that

3974
02:43:31,830 --> 02:43:28,479
with open-minded people

3975
02:43:35,510 --> 02:43:31,840
no i couldn't agree with you more and uh

3976
02:43:37,990 --> 02:43:35,520
the one thing that has helped me

3977
02:43:38,790 --> 02:43:38,000
get through the last year and a half is

3978
02:43:41,510 --> 02:43:38,800
this show

3979
02:43:43,110 --> 02:43:41,520
is you right it's the audience that's

3980
02:43:43,670 --> 02:43:43,120
what i'm stuttering what i'm trying to

3981
02:43:46,150 --> 02:43:43,680
say

3982
02:43:46,870 --> 02:43:46,160
yeah you got it right but but it's

3983
02:43:51,030 --> 02:43:46,880
really true

3984
02:43:54,469 --> 02:43:52,710
yeah yeah there's there's no question

3985
02:43:57,510 --> 02:43:54,479
about that i don't know

3986
02:43:59,510 --> 02:43:57,520
what do you think it has go ahead like

3987
02:44:00,710 --> 02:43:59,520
i start we're talking at different

3988
02:44:04,630 --> 02:44:00,720
frequencies here

3989
02:44:06,550 --> 02:44:04,640
and i'm not used to this telephone delay

3990
02:44:08,230 --> 02:44:06,560
but uh yeah you know we're on the same

3991
02:44:11,750 --> 02:44:08,240
page as what i was gonna say

3992
02:44:13,190 --> 02:44:11,760
now phil uh for for everybody in youtube

3993
02:44:14,870 --> 02:44:13,200
and for the rest of the audience i mean

3994
02:44:18,070 --> 02:44:14,880
everybody knows who you are now

3995
02:44:19,190 --> 02:44:18,080
uh where where where does phil the

3996
02:44:22,230 --> 02:44:19,200
stalker reside

3997
02:44:24,389 --> 02:44:22,240
what state let's just start there well

3998
02:44:26,309 --> 02:44:24,399
okay state's good ohio because i don't

3999
02:44:29,590 --> 02:44:26,319
want to be stocked myself

4000
02:44:33,030 --> 02:44:29,600
right um and

4001
02:44:35,269 --> 02:44:33,040
what part of dayton

4002
02:44:36,150 --> 02:44:35,279
wright patterson kelly's island let's

4003
02:44:38,870 --> 02:44:36,160
say

4004
02:44:40,710 --> 02:44:38,880
an ex a unique place like kelly's island

4005
02:44:43,990 --> 02:44:40,720
ohio

4006
02:44:47,349 --> 02:44:44,000
did you go to kings island uh

4007
02:44:48,790 --> 02:44:47,359
no not kings island um i'm i was saying

4008
02:44:50,230 --> 02:44:48,800
kelly's island no i know

4009
02:44:52,150 --> 02:44:50,240
are you asking if i've been to kings

4010
02:44:53,910 --> 02:44:52,160
island yes

4011
02:44:57,030 --> 02:44:53,920
no but i've been to cedar point you've

4012
02:45:00,150 --> 02:44:59,670
wow yeah roller coaster capital of the

4013
02:45:02,630 --> 02:45:00,160
world

4014
02:45:03,510 --> 02:45:02,640
you just dropped cedar point on fade to

4015
02:45:05,910 --> 02:45:03,520
black

4016
02:45:06,790 --> 02:45:05,920
that is just oh yeah absolutely awesome

4017
02:45:08,950 --> 02:45:06,800
man

4018
02:45:10,870 --> 02:45:08,960
and i didn't even think of it yeah geez

4019
02:45:13,190 --> 02:45:10,880
yeah well done well played

4020
02:45:14,710 --> 02:45:13,200
hey well phil thank you for uh taking

4021
02:45:17,750 --> 02:45:14,720
the the time to call in

4022
02:45:20,389 --> 02:45:17,760
i can't wait to jump over to youtube and

4023
02:45:20,790 --> 02:45:20,399
uh and see everybody's reaction but uh

4024
02:45:23,750 --> 02:45:20,800
thank you

4025
02:45:25,190 --> 02:45:23,760
so much yeah i thought some people would

4026
02:45:25,510 --> 02:45:25,200
want to hear me and see what i sound

4027
02:45:26,550 --> 02:45:25,520
like

4028
02:45:29,190 --> 02:45:26,560
that you know that's what they're

4029
02:45:31,190 --> 02:45:29,200
talking about right now

4030
02:45:32,630 --> 02:45:31,200
i have to go back and scroll back and

4031
02:45:34,309 --> 02:45:32,640
see what all that chat's about

4032
02:45:36,389 --> 02:45:34,319
i'll talk to you phil you're the best

4033
02:45:39,110 --> 02:45:36,399
man thank you so much

4034
02:45:40,630 --> 02:45:39,120
great thanks a lot that is just awesome

4035
02:45:44,070 --> 02:45:40,640
phil i'm serious about this

4036
02:45:45,190 --> 02:45:44,080
phil the stalker just called in to fade

4037
02:45:46,870 --> 02:45:45,200
to black

4038
02:45:48,469 --> 02:45:46,880
and it doesn't get any better i got to

4039
02:45:50,840 --> 02:45:48,479
take a peek over here

4040
02:45:54,150 --> 02:45:50,850
let's see thank you

4041
02:45:57,510 --> 02:45:54,160
[Applause]

4042
02:45:59,670 --> 02:45:57,520
now we know where phil is yes it is

4043
02:46:00,790 --> 02:45:59,680
ohio let's keep the calls going hi

4044
02:46:03,030 --> 02:46:00,800
you're live on fade to black who's

4045
02:46:07,190 --> 02:46:03,040
calling

4046
02:46:09,670 --> 02:46:07,200
hi hi who's this

4047
02:46:11,349 --> 02:46:09,680
this is kevin out of new jersey kevin

4048
02:46:13,670 --> 02:46:11,359
out of new jersey how you doing tonight

4049
02:46:15,670 --> 02:46:13,680
man everything good

4050
02:46:18,309 --> 02:46:15,680
yeah i'm all right thanks for asking how

4051
02:46:19,910 --> 02:46:18,319
are you i i just had don schmidt on the

4052
02:46:22,469 --> 02:46:19,920
show for two hours

4053
02:46:23,269 --> 02:46:22,479
i am i am absolutely wonderful what's on

4054
02:46:26,309 --> 02:46:23,279
your mind tonight

4055
02:46:29,190 --> 02:46:26,319
kevin um

4056
02:46:31,030 --> 02:46:29,200
i was just uh i'm a little bit on the

4057
02:46:33,910 --> 02:46:31,040
online ufo community and

4058
02:46:36,309 --> 02:46:33,920
uh i don't know if you heard about this

4059
02:46:39,030 --> 02:46:36,319
guy on reddit throwaway alien

4060
02:46:41,349 --> 02:46:39,040
and he six years ago he made the

4061
02:46:43,110 --> 02:46:41,359
prediction about ufo stuff going down in

4062
02:46:45,349 --> 02:46:43,120
uh

4063
02:46:46,309 --> 02:46:45,359
july of this year and he made his second

4064
02:46:47,750 --> 02:46:46,319
post like

4065
02:46:49,590 --> 02:46:47,760
yesterday i was wondering if you heard

4066
02:46:52,870 --> 02:46:49,600
about that no i haven't

4067
02:46:56,630 --> 02:46:52,880
what's his name throwaway

4068
02:46:59,830 --> 02:46:56,640
alien on reddit throw away alien

4069
02:47:01,910 --> 02:46:59,840
okay i am going to

4070
02:47:03,750 --> 02:47:01,920
uh check this out after the show tonight

4071
02:47:06,309 --> 02:47:03,760
and this is on reddit

4072
02:47:07,670 --> 02:47:06,319
and this is the other thing kevin uh now

4073
02:47:10,710 --> 02:47:07,680
that you mentioned this

4074
02:47:11,349 --> 02:47:10,720
live on the air uh all of the fader

4075
02:47:13,030 --> 02:47:11,359
knots and

4076
02:47:15,349 --> 02:47:13,040
and twitter and everything else is gonna

4077
02:47:17,830 --> 02:47:15,359
light up about this so i will get

4078
02:47:19,110 --> 02:47:17,840
uh all of the information and i

4079
02:47:21,590 --> 02:47:19,120
appreciate that

4080
02:47:22,630 --> 02:47:21,600
my question to you is what do you think

4081
02:47:26,870 --> 02:47:22,640
is going on

4082
02:47:30,230 --> 02:47:26,880
do you think it's authentic i'm

4083
02:47:33,110 --> 02:47:30,240
not sure it's kind of suspicious that he

4084
02:47:34,870 --> 02:47:33,120
six years ago he said that there was

4085
02:47:36,389 --> 02:47:34,880
going to be some real big stuff going

4086
02:47:39,670 --> 02:47:36,399
down with disclosure

4087
02:47:42,389 --> 02:47:39,680
uh you know next month and uh

4088
02:47:43,510 --> 02:47:42,399
you know he made a second post yesterday

4089
02:47:46,710 --> 02:47:43,520
he's like

4090
02:47:48,309 --> 02:47:46,720
i don't know what's going on but it's

4091
02:47:50,870 --> 02:47:48,319
suspicious of all

4092
02:47:51,510 --> 02:47:50,880
it reminds me of just by you saying it

4093
02:47:54,469 --> 02:47:51,520
like this

4094
02:47:56,070 --> 02:47:54,479
in this fashion reminds me of john

4095
02:47:59,510 --> 02:47:56,080
teeter

4096
02:48:01,030 --> 02:47:59,520
and that is still one of the most

4097
02:48:03,429 --> 02:48:01,040
fascinating stories

4098
02:48:05,590 --> 02:48:03,439
that went down on the internet and will

4099
02:48:06,550 --> 02:48:05,600
continue to be the gift that keeps on

4100
02:48:09,590 --> 02:48:06,560
giving

4101
02:48:12,070 --> 02:48:09,600
but throwaway alien said that 20 july of

4102
02:48:15,590 --> 02:48:12,080
2021 was going to be the year

4103
02:48:19,030 --> 02:48:15,600
and he said that six years ago

4104
02:48:21,190 --> 02:48:19,040
yeah okay all right i am

4105
02:48:22,389 --> 02:48:21,200
going to look into all of this i'm

4106
02:48:25,510 --> 02:48:22,399
watching

4107
02:48:28,550 --> 02:48:25,520
very

4108
02:48:30,389 --> 02:48:28,560
quick and i'm going to uh i'm going to

4109
02:48:32,710 --> 02:48:30,399
look into this right after the show

4110
02:48:34,469 --> 02:48:32,720
i'll make some comments tomorrow night

4111
02:48:35,110 --> 02:48:34,479
you're the best man i appreciate it

4112
02:48:37,269 --> 02:48:35,120
kevin

4113
02:48:39,830 --> 02:48:37,279
oh yeah i appreciate the show you're the

4114
02:48:41,910 --> 02:48:39,840
best man thank you so much

4115
02:48:43,670 --> 02:48:41,920
take care you too it's time to fade to

4116
02:48:46,990 --> 02:48:43,680
black thank you kevin

4117
02:48:50,550 --> 02:48:47,000
um yeah everybody out there um

4118
02:48:55,429 --> 02:48:50,560
throwaway alien on reddit

4119
02:48:58,309 --> 02:48:55,439
six years ago said that july of 2021

4120
02:48:59,750 --> 02:48:58,319
was going to be the year that's very

4121
02:49:02,870 --> 02:48:59,760
interesting so i want

4122
02:49:05,030 --> 02:49:02,880
everybody uh to get back to me

4123
02:49:05,990 --> 02:49:05,040
and uh let me know what is going on with

4124
02:49:08,870 --> 02:49:06,000
that and what

4125
02:49:10,870 --> 02:49:08,880
uh what does everybody know that's a

4126
02:49:12,790 --> 02:49:10,880
very interesting throw away

4127
02:49:14,630 --> 02:49:12,800
alien on reddit let's go back to the

4128
02:49:17,110 --> 02:49:14,640
phones how you're live on fade to black

4129
02:49:19,429 --> 02:49:17,120
who's calling

4130
02:49:22,790 --> 02:49:19,439
i'm dennis here in coeur d'alene idaho

4131
02:49:24,710 --> 02:49:22,800
jimmy how are you how's coeur d'alene

4132
02:49:26,230 --> 02:49:24,720
oh it's pretty it's beautiful day out

4133
02:49:30,309 --> 02:49:26,240
today i went to spokane

4134
02:49:33,670 --> 02:49:30,319
and it was nice yeah core to lane

4135
02:49:37,030 --> 02:49:35,990
that's a weird french french name that's

4136
02:49:39,349 --> 02:49:37,040
weird yeah

4137
02:49:40,070 --> 02:49:39,359
my daughter went to coeur d'alene

4138
02:49:44,710 --> 02:49:40,080
elementary

4139
02:49:46,950 --> 02:49:44,720
school really yeah how crazy is that

4140
02:49:49,190 --> 02:49:46,960
it's not something yeah yeah i always

4141
02:49:52,790 --> 02:49:49,200
wanted i was like man what a great name

4142
02:49:56,070 --> 02:49:52,800
coeur d'alene quarterly and you know

4143
02:49:59,190 --> 02:49:56,080
what was really strange that whole uh

4144
02:50:00,150 --> 02:49:59,200
alien e.t connection with uh coeur

4145
02:50:03,429 --> 02:50:00,160
d'alene

4146
02:50:05,510 --> 02:50:03,439
and barack obama yeah

4147
02:50:08,389 --> 02:50:05,520
yeah you're uh you're really up on

4148
02:50:11,269 --> 02:50:08,399
things this is a hot spot up here jimmy

4149
02:50:12,150 --> 02:50:11,279
i've gone out in the backyard and had

4150
02:50:14,469 --> 02:50:12,160
ufos

4151
02:50:15,910 --> 02:50:14,479
sitting out in the backyard here at

4152
02:50:18,550 --> 02:50:15,920
right downtown

4153
02:50:19,429 --> 02:50:18,560
i'm right next to the freeway 90 going

4154
02:50:22,469 --> 02:50:19,439
by

4155
02:50:24,389 --> 02:50:22,479
in my house and i sat on the patio and

4156
02:50:26,070 --> 02:50:24,399
oh they're over in the yakima indian

4157
02:50:28,150 --> 02:50:26,080
reservation my gym

4158
02:50:30,150 --> 02:50:28,160
james gilliland's place so you can see

4159
02:50:32,150 --> 02:50:30,160
them in the west northwest

4160
02:50:34,710 --> 02:50:32,160
and they're all over the place so show

4161
02:50:37,429 --> 02:50:34,720
up it's really weird

4162
02:50:38,309 --> 02:50:37,439
i've done experiments to draw them in

4163
02:50:40,070 --> 02:50:38,319
and

4164
02:50:42,309 --> 02:50:40,080
it's really weird i think they can pick

4165
02:50:44,630 --> 02:50:42,319
up on your thoughts and your motives

4166
02:50:45,349 --> 02:50:44,640
well what did you make of i forget his

4167
02:50:49,190 --> 02:50:45,359
name

4168
02:50:52,309 --> 02:50:49,200
uh uh the resident there of court elaine

4169
02:50:53,990 --> 02:50:52,319
that wrote that huge document

4170
02:50:56,710 --> 02:50:54,000
up and then went to the white house

4171
02:51:00,150 --> 02:50:56,720
threw it over the fence got arrested

4172
02:51:02,230 --> 02:51:00,160
um wanted obama to read uh

4173
02:51:04,230 --> 02:51:02,240
everything and and he wrote in there he

4174
02:51:05,680 --> 02:51:04,240
said man everybody in coeur d'alene's an

4175
02:51:08,309 --> 02:51:05,690
alien right

4176
02:51:10,790 --> 02:51:08,319
[Laughter]

4177
02:51:13,190 --> 02:51:10,800
yeah we've had the weirdest sightings i

4178
02:51:15,670 --> 02:51:13,200
could tell you stuff that would seem so

4179
02:51:17,110 --> 02:51:15,680
outlandish that a person might not

4180
02:51:19,429 --> 02:51:17,120
believe you so i just

4181
02:51:20,710 --> 02:51:19,439
keep my sightings to myself the things

4182
02:51:22,870 --> 02:51:20,720
that have happened here

4183
02:51:25,190 --> 02:51:22,880
but i know this place is a hot spot

4184
02:51:29,349 --> 02:51:25,200
they're around as well as bigfoot

4185
02:51:31,990 --> 02:51:29,359
out in the woods out here too as well

4186
02:51:32,790 --> 02:51:32,000
you guys are so remote up there and it's

4187
02:51:36,550 --> 02:51:32,800
beautiful

4188
02:51:39,190 --> 02:51:36,560
and you have the lake and but yeah

4189
02:51:40,550 --> 02:51:39,200
you have the opportunity for everything

4190
02:51:43,670 --> 02:51:40,560
to happen at the same time

4191
02:51:44,070 --> 02:51:43,680
and i totally agree with you um uh he

4192
02:51:47,510 --> 02:51:44,080
had

4193
02:51:49,830 --> 02:51:47,520
said um uh in this uh

4194
02:51:50,950 --> 02:51:49,840
document that he wrote up for obama he

4195
02:51:53,830 --> 02:51:50,960
said that

4196
02:51:55,030 --> 02:51:53,840
everybody at his church the pastor at

4197
02:51:58,790 --> 02:51:55,040
his church

4198
02:52:02,070 --> 02:51:58,800
was a shape-shifting reptilian

4199
02:52:03,750 --> 02:52:02,080
that is weird uh that's i'm yeah i don't

4200
02:52:05,750 --> 02:52:03,760
know what to say i've only been up here

4201
02:52:08,070 --> 02:52:05,760
since 99 here

4202
02:52:09,510 --> 02:52:08,080
my dad's house he you know was gifted to

4203
02:52:13,510 --> 02:52:09,520
me because everyone died off

4204
02:52:13,990 --> 02:52:13,520
i'm 67 years old well i'm i'm here alone

4205
02:52:16,950 --> 02:52:14,000
you know

4206
02:52:17,190 --> 02:52:16,960
sorry i've never seen that go ahead go

4207
02:52:20,990 --> 02:52:17,200
ahead

4208
02:52:24,389 --> 02:52:21,000
his name was kyle odom

4209
02:52:27,830 --> 02:52:24,399
k-y-l-e odom o-d-o-o-m

4210
02:52:30,389 --> 02:52:27,840
yeah kyle odom interesting yeah he was

4211
02:52:33,910 --> 02:52:30,399
born and raised in north idaho

4212
02:52:36,950 --> 02:52:33,920
and uh and he wrote this manifesto

4213
02:52:39,110 --> 02:52:36,960
and i'm trying to the whole thing is

4214
02:52:40,309 --> 02:52:39,120
online you can go and read it i'm

4215
02:52:44,550 --> 02:52:40,319
looking at it i will

4216
02:52:48,790 --> 02:52:44,560
follow that up yeah kyle odom 21 pages

4217
02:52:51,030 --> 02:52:48,800
of crazy you need to go and read it he's

4218
02:52:54,469 --> 02:52:51,040
a well-written guy and he's pretty smart

4219
02:52:56,389 --> 02:52:54,479
yeah i will follow your advice sir

4220
02:52:57,670 --> 02:52:56,399
i just want to make two quick uh

4221
02:53:00,230 --> 02:52:57,680
comments and

4222
02:53:01,190 --> 02:53:00,240
i agree i'm on dr greer's site because

4223
02:53:03,429 --> 02:53:01,200
these uh

4224
02:53:04,550 --> 02:53:03,439
life forms have come into the military

4225
02:53:08,469 --> 02:53:04,560
installations

4226
02:53:11,190 --> 02:53:08,479
like at maelstrom in 1967 i think it was

4227
02:53:13,190 --> 02:53:11,200
it shut down the facility you you're on

4228
02:53:15,349 --> 02:53:13,200
top of this stuff better than i am

4229
02:53:17,190 --> 02:53:15,359
and uh yeah so they've shown that

4230
02:53:19,510 --> 02:53:17,200
they're not hostile

4231
02:53:21,190 --> 02:53:19,520
you know in a lot of ways and they're

4232
02:53:23,190 --> 02:53:21,200
they're showing us you know hey you know

4233
02:53:25,510 --> 02:53:23,200
we got the power to uh

4234
02:53:27,990 --> 02:53:25,520
override any negative stuff you want to

4235
02:53:31,110 --> 02:53:28,000
pull you know these war mongers so

4236
02:53:33,349 --> 02:53:31,120
i that so i have to agree with dr greer

4237
02:53:35,269 --> 02:53:33,359
and and one other thing i'll switch and

4238
02:53:37,990 --> 02:53:35,279
get off and let the fans on

4239
02:53:40,309 --> 02:53:38,000
your guitar affection auto i used to go

4240
02:53:43,670 --> 02:53:40,319
to see all the old bands i'm 67

4241
02:53:46,630 --> 02:53:43,680
so back in the late 69 68

4242
02:53:47,030 --> 02:53:46,640
70s and i saw all the guitar players

4243
02:53:48,870 --> 02:53:47,040
live

4244
02:53:51,349 --> 02:53:48,880
most of them and i'm going to tell you

4245
02:53:54,070 --> 02:53:51,359
what johnny winter was without a doubt

4246
02:53:55,030 --> 02:53:54,080
superior to all of them slide guitar and

4247
02:53:57,030 --> 02:53:55,040
all aspects

4248
02:53:58,550 --> 02:53:57,040
he's without a doubt the greatest guitar

4249
02:54:01,510 --> 02:53:58,560
player i ever saw yeah man

4250
02:54:02,150 --> 02:54:01,520
johnny winter man and you know what he

4251
02:54:06,790 --> 02:54:02,160
had that

4252
02:54:09,910 --> 02:54:06,800
hair he looks so cool he looks so cool

4253
02:54:10,469 --> 02:54:09,920
you know he was i know yeah any guitar

4254
02:54:12,389 --> 02:54:10,479
player

4255
02:54:14,070 --> 02:54:12,399
will tell you that johnny winner was a

4256
02:54:17,349 --> 02:54:14,080
players player

4257
02:54:19,429 --> 02:54:17,359
and we all appreciated

4258
02:54:20,469 --> 02:54:19,439
everything that he did his brother edgar

4259
02:54:22,710 --> 02:54:20,479
too though

4260
02:54:23,830 --> 02:54:22,720
you know that yes sir she's absolutely

4261
02:54:26,550 --> 02:54:23,840
incredible

4262
02:54:28,550 --> 02:54:26,560
thank you so much yeah what's your name

4263
02:54:31,190 --> 02:54:28,560
jimmy i got i got to talk to him

4264
02:54:32,389 --> 02:54:31,200
i went to the long beach arena in 75 and

4265
02:54:34,710 --> 02:54:32,399
i pulled the curtain

4266
02:54:35,830 --> 02:54:34,720
i was one of the first fans in the back

4267
02:54:37,510 --> 02:54:35,840
door opens up and

4268
02:54:39,349 --> 02:54:37,520
like 50 people come in there's

4269
02:54:40,070 --> 02:54:39,359
limousines and everything he's in the

4270
02:54:42,469 --> 02:54:40,080
middle there

4271
02:54:44,790 --> 02:54:42,479
with a girl on each one of his arms and

4272
02:54:46,790 --> 02:54:44,800
he comes walking right over to me i said

4273
02:54:48,790 --> 02:54:46,800
johnny johnny's my hero

4274
02:54:50,230 --> 02:54:48,800
so uh he come over and he was the

4275
02:54:52,870 --> 02:54:50,240
coolest nicest

4276
02:54:53,750 --> 02:54:52,880
man you know and he looked so cool i

4277
02:54:55,910 --> 02:54:53,760
couldn't believe it

4278
02:54:57,910 --> 02:54:55,920
no i'll quit hogging time sir you're the

4279
02:55:01,269 --> 02:54:57,920
best you're the best thank you

4280
02:55:03,110 --> 02:55:01,279
and uh yeah thank you so much and

4281
02:55:04,790 --> 02:55:03,120
uh we love court elaine down here thank

4282
02:55:08,630 --> 02:55:04,800
you so much i wonder what

4283
02:55:11,670 --> 02:55:08,640
uh johnny winter was wearing

4284
02:55:14,389 --> 02:55:11,680
that dude could dress that dude

4285
02:55:15,990 --> 02:55:14,399
played the part there was no question

4286
02:55:17,269 --> 02:55:16,000
about it let's uh go back to the phones

4287
02:55:19,030 --> 02:55:17,279
how you're live on fade to black who's

4288
02:55:21,190 --> 02:55:19,040
calling

4289
02:55:23,030 --> 02:55:21,200
jimmy freaking church how's it going man

4290
02:55:28,830 --> 02:55:23,040
this is e honda 420

4291
02:55:29,990 --> 02:55:28,840
on youtube e honda 420 what's the 424

4292
02:55:33,110 --> 02:55:30,000
again

4293
02:55:36,150 --> 02:55:33,120
this is who i am e honda i've got uh two

4294
02:55:37,910 --> 02:55:36,160
three minutes what's on your mind uh

4295
02:55:39,670 --> 02:55:37,920
just a question for you and a quick

4296
02:55:42,150 --> 02:55:39,680
story okay

4297
02:55:42,790 --> 02:55:42,160
quick story first i'll go with what with

4298
02:55:44,790 --> 02:55:42,800
your uh

4299
02:55:46,790 --> 02:55:44,800
your last caller the not the caller the

4300
02:55:49,990 --> 02:55:46,800
uh the guy that you had don schmidt

4301
02:55:51,349 --> 02:55:50,000
yes he was talking about lockheed martin

4302
02:55:53,750 --> 02:55:51,359
i saw

4303
02:55:55,269 --> 02:55:53,760
what could only be described as a ufo

4304
02:55:55,750 --> 02:55:55,279
because i didn't see anything else other

4305
02:55:58,950 --> 02:55:55,760
than

4306
02:56:00,469 --> 02:55:58,960
it was unidentified it was flying and it

4307
02:56:02,070 --> 02:56:00,479
looked like an object you know what i

4308
02:56:04,630 --> 02:56:02,080
mean okay and it was

4309
02:56:05,510 --> 02:56:04,640
figured out right by like if you look at

4310
02:56:08,230 --> 02:56:05,520
it on a map

4311
02:56:10,070 --> 02:56:08,240
right by a lockheed martin facility and

4312
02:56:10,950 --> 02:56:10,080
i always thought like when i learned

4313
02:56:14,469 --> 02:56:10,960
that

4314
02:56:17,750 --> 02:56:14,479
technology

4315
02:56:19,750 --> 02:56:17,760
government developed

4316
02:56:21,830 --> 02:56:19,760
and i wanted to know what you think

4317
02:56:23,110 --> 02:56:21,840
about that yeah i've seen a few of those

4318
02:56:27,110 --> 02:56:23,120
uh photographs

4319
02:56:30,950 --> 02:56:27,120
as well here in southern california

4320
02:56:34,230 --> 02:56:30,960
uh there are a bunch of uh

4321
02:56:35,990 --> 02:56:34,240
research areas out in in the desert uh

4322
02:56:37,910 --> 02:56:36,000
very close to here in lockheed martin of

4323
02:56:41,910 --> 02:56:37,920
course skunk works is out there

4324
02:56:44,389 --> 02:56:41,920
uh raytheon and uh northrop grumman

4325
02:56:45,269 --> 02:56:44,399
where they would set up these and when

4326
02:56:47,429 --> 02:56:45,279
you look at

4327
02:56:48,950 --> 02:56:47,439
the photographs of them from the ground

4328
02:56:51,269 --> 02:56:48,960
and from the air

4329
02:56:53,110 --> 02:56:51,279
uh some of this stuff looks like it

4330
02:56:55,030 --> 02:56:53,120
could be an alien craft and they would

4331
02:56:58,710 --> 02:56:55,040
set them up out there

4332
02:57:01,510 --> 02:56:58,720
uh for uh cross-section

4333
02:57:02,870 --> 02:57:01,520
analyst uh analyzing for radar

4334
02:57:06,710 --> 02:57:02,880
signatures

4335
02:57:09,190 --> 02:57:06,720
um and they would have these weird um

4336
02:57:10,550 --> 02:57:09,200
it looked like an obelisk uh these

4337
02:57:13,429 --> 02:57:10,560
triangle

4338
02:57:15,590 --> 02:57:13,439
uh podiums that they would set them on

4339
02:57:16,070 --> 02:57:15,600
and the triangle podiums like a stealth

4340
02:57:17,990 --> 02:57:16,080
fighter

4341
02:57:19,269 --> 02:57:18,000
right that same idea would be invisible

4342
02:57:20,790 --> 02:57:19,279
to the radar

4343
02:57:22,309 --> 02:57:20,800
and then they would have these and i

4344
02:57:25,030 --> 02:57:22,319
would i would look at this like

4345
02:57:25,990 --> 02:57:25,040
what what is it that they need a radar

4346
02:57:29,510 --> 02:57:26,000
signature on

4347
02:57:33,269 --> 02:57:29,520
that looks like a flying saucer to me so

4348
02:57:35,510 --> 02:57:33,279
what is it that is happening here so yes

4349
02:57:38,070 --> 02:57:35,520
i've i've seen that

4350
02:57:39,590 --> 02:57:38,080
i don't know i you know i don't i've

4351
02:57:43,429 --> 02:57:39,600
always identified it

4352
02:57:44,790 --> 02:57:43,439
as a possibility of being an actual

4353
02:57:47,670 --> 02:57:44,800
flying saucer but

4354
02:57:49,510 --> 02:57:47,680
a recreation of one and they're out

4355
02:57:50,070 --> 02:57:49,520
there testing it because they know that

4356
02:57:54,150 --> 02:57:50,080
this stuff

4357
02:57:55,030 --> 02:57:54,160
is flying around um in our airspace and

4358
02:57:58,870 --> 02:57:55,040
they need to be

4359
02:58:01,110 --> 02:57:58,880
able to detect it on radar so yes

4360
02:58:01,910 --> 02:58:01,120
honda i've seen i've seen the images i

4361
02:58:05,030 --> 02:58:01,920
don't know if it's

4362
02:58:08,710 --> 02:58:05,040
an actual craft or they were

4363
02:58:10,389 --> 02:58:08,720
using a model of a craft of a design

4364
02:58:11,990 --> 02:58:10,399
and trying to figure out how to see it

4365
02:58:14,550 --> 02:58:12,000
but yes i've seen

4366
02:58:16,150 --> 02:58:14,560
dozens and dozens of photographs from

4367
02:58:17,990 --> 02:58:16,160
different corporations in different

4368
02:58:21,830 --> 02:58:18,000
areas out here in the desert

4369
02:58:24,309 --> 02:58:21,840
so i've got i've got 60 seconds what was

4370
02:58:26,309 --> 02:58:24,319
your second part

4371
02:58:27,990 --> 02:58:26,319
well i don't know the thing that i saw

4372
02:58:29,110 --> 02:58:28,000
it wasn't a picture it was in real life

4373
02:58:30,790 --> 02:58:29,120
and there was no way

4374
02:58:32,230 --> 02:58:30,800
and you know what that that could have

4375
02:58:35,830 --> 02:58:32,240
been anything but

4376
02:58:36,389 --> 02:58:35,840
either a testing or a space alien in a

4377
02:58:39,429 --> 02:58:36,399
ship

4378
02:58:41,030 --> 02:58:39,439
but anyway my question was to you about

4379
02:58:42,230 --> 02:58:41,040
where do you get all your great guests

4380
02:58:43,910 --> 02:58:42,240
from is it just because you've been

4381
02:58:45,670 --> 02:58:43,920
doing it for so long and people just

4382
02:58:47,030 --> 02:58:45,680
contact you and you have a plethora of

4383
02:58:49,349 --> 02:58:47,040
people to pick from

4384
02:58:50,230 --> 02:58:49,359
or is there like a selection process or

4385
02:58:51,910 --> 02:58:50,240
how does that work

4386
02:58:53,750 --> 02:58:51,920
you know what you know what's cool about

4387
02:58:56,469 --> 02:58:53,760
where i am today

4388
02:58:58,070 --> 02:58:56,479
i have the most amazing contact list in

4389
02:59:00,309 --> 02:58:58,080
my cell phone

4390
02:59:01,429 --> 02:59:00,319
it would freak you out come up to me at

4391
02:59:03,910 --> 02:59:01,439
a conference one day

4392
02:59:05,030 --> 02:59:03,920
and i'll let you uh scroll through it

4393
02:59:08,309 --> 02:59:05,040
have a great night

4394
02:59:09,830 --> 02:59:08,319
honda behave and be well 420

4395
02:59:11,510 --> 02:59:09,840
youtube my good sir i hope you have a

4396
02:59:13,030 --> 02:59:11,520
great night you too man thank you so

4397
02:59:14,070 --> 02:59:13,040
much that's a great way to end the show

4398
02:59:17,429 --> 02:59:14,080
right there

4399
02:59:18,950 --> 02:59:17,439
and uh wouldn't you love to check out my

4400
02:59:23,110 --> 02:59:18,960
contact list

4401
02:59:24,790 --> 02:59:23,120
in my cell phone oh you have no idea

4402
02:59:27,190 --> 02:59:24,800
this is fade to black i'm your host

4403
02:59:29,190 --> 02:59:27,200
jimmy church thank you to don schmidt

4404
02:59:30,630 --> 02:59:29,200
what a great night tonight i always

4405
02:59:31,670 --> 02:59:30,640
expect that with donald it's always so

4406
02:59:33,429 --> 02:59:31,680
much fun

4407
02:59:34,870 --> 02:59:33,439
don schmidt tomorrow night right here

4408
02:59:36,710 --> 02:59:34,880
sean stone

4409
02:59:38,790 --> 02:59:36,720
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4410
02:59:40,230 --> 02:59:38,800
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4411
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4412
02:59:44,389 --> 02:59:43,040
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4413
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4414
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4415
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4416
02:59:54,630 --> 02:59:52,399
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4417
02:59:56,389 --> 02:59:54,640
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4418
02:59:58,389 --> 02:59:56,399
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4419
03:00:00,469 --> 02:59:58,399
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4420
03:00:02,870 --> 03:00:00,479
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4421
03:00:04,870 --> 03:00:02,880
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4422
03:00:06,790 --> 03:00:04,880
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4423
03:00:08,389 --> 03:00:06,800
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4424
03:00:08,950 --> 03:00:08,399
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4425
03:00:10,710 --> 03:00:08,960
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4426
03:00:12,309 --> 03:00:10,720
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4427
03:00:13,429 --> 03:00:12,319
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4428
03:00:15,830 --> 03:00:13,439
your host jimmy church

4429
03:00:18,150 --> 03:00:15,840
tomorrow night right here sean stone

4430
03:00:24,000 --> 03:00:18,160
until then i want everybody to be

4431
03:00:41,850 --> 03:00:24,010
safe it's time to fade to black